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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomo View Post
    Interesting. Do you have a source for the 80% scaling? I looked it up and the only thing I could find was pets taking "snapshots" of your character when summoned.
    Embrace heals for roughly 30% less than you would expect from potency comparisons with players. It's been this way since Heavensward, and continues into Stormblood. For instance currently my level 70 SCH (ilvl 286) heals between 6000 and 6300 with its 400 potency Physick, whereas Embrace heals between 2400 and 2550 at 250 potency. This actually makes Embrace heal with an effective player potency of about 160, or almost 40% less than what I would have hoped for currently in game right at this moment, and I have pulled previous testing values in HW and also at level 60 in SB when the ratio was 20%-30%. This is also true for Whispering Dawn, which currently heals between 970 and 1050 for me on non-critical heal pulses, about 35% less than what you would expect from a 100 potency heal from a player. This basically means in order for the fairy to actually match its listed potency, you have to Rouse it just to break even.

    I've tested Shadowflare and it still damages at expected potency so Earthly Star isn't effected because it's a ground skill, but it may be paying the "fairy tax" for some reason. Out of curiosity, does it still heal at expected potency values compared to Benefic?
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 07-14-2017 at 04:07 AM.

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    Lala Cristo
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Out of curiosity, does it still heal at expected potency values compared to Benefic?
    I can't test right now as SE or Amazon sent out my physical copy a few days ago. I'll check whenever it arrives unless someone else wants to do it. I honestly never thought to check the heal as it was good enough in my eyes. The issue I had was with how little damage Earthly Star did, which is why I zeroed in on it so quickly.
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
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    Earthly star acts like the turret deployed by MCH (they even share the same AoE Marker when deploying them), so I suppose that's not a Fairy Tax but a Turret Tax. I think the MCH turret deals less damage compared to MCH.
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Earthly star acts like the turret deployed by MCH (they even share the same AoE Marker when deploying them), so I suppose that's not a Fairy Tax but a Turret Tax. I think the MCH turret deals less damage compared to MCH.
    As it should.
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    Lala Cristo
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Out of curiosity, does it still heal at expected potency values compared to Benefic?
    I'll post my work in an edit, but Benefic 1,2 and both versions of Earthly Star are healing to their expected potency. I took off my stances to keep the 10%-15% boost out too. I'll double check the damage potency again when I finish with the healing potencies.


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    Benefic 400 pot
    Normal heals 5046 5085 5193 5198 5128 4947 5150 5107 5034 5201
    avg =5108.9
    heal/pot=12.77225
    %diff from total heal/pot avg=0.9418150127%

    Benefic 2 650 pot
    Normal heals 7986 8068 8293 8279 8126 7988 8208 8301 8362 8455
    avg=8206.6
    heal/pot=12.62553846
    *12059 crit 12130 bold with ! 12294 12031
    %diff from total heal/pot avg=0.2176775694%

    Earthly Dominance 540 pot
    Normal heals 6869 6649 6916 7022 6828 6794 6844 6885 6684 6884
    avg=6837.5
    heal/pot=12.66203704
    %diff from total heal/pot avg=0.077849048%

    Giant Dominiance 720 pot
    Normal heals 8940 8838 9094 9096 9033 9155 8814 9250 9145 9013
    *crit! 13447
    avg=9037.8
    heal/pot=12.5525
    %diff from total heal/pot avg=0.7949160918%
    Total Avg Heal/pot= 12.65308138
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    Last edited by Pomo; 06-27-2017 at 06:49 PM. Reason: Numbers