Can anyone say anything positive about 4.0 DRG?

[Montjuleant]

I've been sitting here for like an hour trying come to a logical conclusion as to why they decided to remove any interesting mechanics or complexity to Dragoon and leave them as the weakest DPS job in SB, even taking into account the additional effective DPS they'd receive through their piercing resistance debuff and straight damage increasing party buffs.

Someone give me a reason to keep using jumps before I jump to a job that doesn't risk putting me to sleep mid battle.

[Jabe]

Get to lvl 70 before making any definite conclusions. Mirage Dive only procs off of Jump and Spineshatter Dive btw. You will need 4 Mirage Dives to proc Life of the Dragon. Yes, starting at 60 DRG feels super dry bc of no Phlebotimize and no need to manage BoD, but there will be more to do as you progress to 70. I'm only 68 on mine atm, having done DRK first, but at 68 I find the rotation much more fun than at 60. DRK also felt really weird at 60, but also fleshed out more as it progressed, and I'm guessing other jobs might feel that way as well. Just gotta get to 70 and have all abilities unlocked to find out how the full rotation will play out.

[Alpha087]

They always put a damage buff on me while I'm tanking experts and they seem to be capable of putting out decent damage themselves? It's also one of the coolest looking jobs in the game.

[Montjuleant]

Just gotta get to 70 and have all abilities unlocked to find out how the full rotation will play out.

I'm 64 now and just unlocked lance mastery which entirely removes any need for me to even look at my dragon meter, as barring me literally falling asleep for want of an interesting mechanic on my job, it will never deplete with me getting 20 seconds of blood every combo.

And looking towards the horizon, all I have to look forward to is another OGCD jump I can use after my other jumps and a red version of geirskogul that does more damage with a longer cooldown; In other words, absolutely nothing that changes how the class plays. Thanks Yoshida!

[BristolRuss]

Nastrond actually only has a 10 second cooldown. So providing you go into life of the dragon with over 20 seconds on your BotD timer (though as close to 30 seconds as possible is better) you can do it 3 times while LotD is up.

[Gravton]

Nope, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. We get a timer on a timer, a 4th on 4th weapon skill, a jump on a jump, and geirskogul on geirskogul. We got dragons eye, that's pretty cool. Everything is the same, just doubled, but our dps is halved. Oh and the added bonus of losing all progress towards LotD during phase changes. But! Reduced cool down on elusive jump soooo more backflips? If that interests you.

[Grelvin]

Can say something positive..

I'm positive it's not the weakest dps class right now.

I'm positive it has a huge player base and will be tweaked.

I'm positive a lot of jobs "don't feel right" - we didn't just get class changes, we also got a combat system revamp and pve style change. Change is hard

[HoLoFoNo]

It looks cool?

It's the 3rd weakest dps as a MELEE DPS which is clearly off.

Its damage utility is fairly questionable as disembowel is 5% for the 2 lowest dps?

Dragon sight is just bad (bad range, weak, visual noise, doesn't even grant an eye stack)

Litany is the only thing that remained good about DRG and even that isn't at its final form yet as crit has been rescaled so its lower for everyone.

[Montjuleant]

Can say something positive..

I'm positive it's not the weakest dps class right now.

I'm positive it has a huge player base and will be tweaked.

I'm positive a lot of jobs "don't feel right" - we didn't just get class changes, we also got a combat system revamp and pve style change. Change is hard

I think they forgot to revamp dragoon. All they did was give a graphic to BOTD and remove skills that weren't used in every battle. Maybe this would be alright if the new skills and traits added anything interesting or changed things up, but it's just more jumps and more geirskogul.

The most novel thing they added is dragon sight, which is only interesting in that it's DRG's first skill that involves interacting with another player; very interesting decision of them to wait until level 66 before giving us a skill involving other players in an MMORPG.

[Erys]

I like lvl70 goon more than 60 if that makes you happy xP
The eyes make me happier in dungeons than the ordinary BotD. In primals is the same as the old thing which I already loved, I'm only bummed about not getting a new legit Jump.