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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    WAR was always a tank that was about about a bouncing HP score. It goes up and down a LOT.

    My solution is that I have stacked my role skills with mitigation skills - and try to have one of them going as close to always as possible.
    I also make very heavy use of Inner Beast, Equilibrium, and Thrill of Battle.

    Hitting Infuriate and then Inner Beast is handy - but don't use it when you're full on health.
    Once I have locked down aggro, my Beast Gauge is all about Inner Beast - situational exceptions of course.

    Also once you have locked aggro... you can cycle Storm's Path as much as possible to keep a constant small amount of self healing going.

    After a few runs, managing it all will just become instinctive and you'll know when to use that beast gauge for something like Steel Cyclone or Onslaught, and when to use it for Inner Beast. Once this becomes 'intuitive' the class will start feeling pretty powerful.

    I personally think all of the 'doom and gloom' over WAR before launch was just 'not yet seeing it in practice'...
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    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Arnar Grande
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I personally think all of the 'doom and gloom' over WAR before launch was just 'not yet seeing it in practice'...
    I mean, WAR is still viable, but I don't think it's fun anymore.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...riors/dig5gc7/
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    FallenWings's Avatar
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    WAR was always a tank that was about about a bouncing HP score. It goes up and down a LOT.
    This has always been a false notion that misinforms new players.

    WAR's HP does not bounce down more than the other tanks if played correctly as their CD suite is often times as effective when used and used more frequently. It bounces upwards because of their burst heals through Inner Beast, Equilibrium and previously Bloodbathed Fell Cleaves.

    I believe that the notion of it bouncing up and down is through the misinterpreted idea that they take more damage and receive more healing in Defiance thus their HP moves up and down more. This is not the case as WARs HP is larger than the other two and when taking a similar hit, percentage wise, it goes down all the same.

    i.e

    War 12 500 HP (100%)
    PLD/DRK 10 000 HP (100%)

    They take a hit that would deal 10 000 damage.

    PLD and Drk reduce this down to 8000, War takes the full brunt.

    WAR: 2500/12500 (20%)
    PLD/DRK: 2000/10000 (20%)
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    If you're disgruntled about the WAR changes, the best possible course of action you can do is stop playing a job that you no longer find fun, and spend your time playing the game doing something that you enjoy doing.
    I'm disgruntled because I'm passionate about the job. I love the story, lore and aesthetics behind it. I just hate to see my favorite job in the game just suddenly turn into a one button masher. Unfortunately game play was the deal breaker. I liked where they were taking the war in 4.0, the execution just fell a bit short of the goal. With regards to playtime, I already made my vote. I'm currently lvling up SAM and once that's 70 I'm going dps until further notice and hope that some changes will be made. Im also leveling my crafts and gatherers. I really do like this job but it just doesn't play "right" atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    This has always been a false notion that misinforms new players.

    WAR's HP does not bounce down more than the other tanks if played correctly as their CD suite is often times as effective when used and used more frequently.
    WAR in 4.0 defiance is actually the one thing that improved in 4.0. The gauge allows easier access to Inner Beast thus making mitigation much more consistent and frequent which is always good for tanking.
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I'm disgruntled because I'm passionate about the job. I love the story, lore and aesthetics behind it. I just hate to see my favorite job in the game just suddenly turn into a one button masher. Unfortunately game play was the deal breaker. I liked where they were taking the war in 4.0, the execution just fell a bit short of the goal. With regards to playtime, I already made my vote. I'm currently lvling up SAM and once that's 70 I'm going dps until further notice and hope that some changes will be made. Im also leveling my crafts and gatherers. I really do like this job but it just doesn't play "right" atm.
    Trust me, I am absolutely right there with you. I'm still going to offhandedly level my WAR to 70 for the sake of my friend circle, but you won't catch me dead queuing for anything DF related on a tank for the foreseeable future.

    It won't take a lot to win me back, really.

    I want bloodbath, I want stance dancing penalties gone, and I want to gain Attack Power from my accessories. That's really all it would take for me to shut up and go back to full time tanking.
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