what job holds best AOE DPS # in 4.0 ??

[Sunako]

where does SMN stand now?

Summoner aoe dps is pretty high if you have cooldowns, but sustained aoe damage is not that good as blm. I have stealed aggro often with bahamut, but it is only once every 2min.

[Furiea]

thanks for the feedback guys! appreciated it.

[Arkenne]

On the rangeds Im not so sure about MCH but BRD's Mage's Ballad, a couple DoTs here and there and you can Rain of Death the mob to oblivion.

[SpeckledBurd]

My guess is Black Mage is the king overall, Monk is second for massive pulls due to not having any scaling on its AOEs+two TP regens for insane levels of sustain, and Samurai is second for smaller pulls due to all of its attacks scaling down for Subsequent enemies.

At the very least, no one is really bad as far as AOE goes amongst the DPS like Ninja was in early Heavensward as far as I can tell.

[Bardo]

On the rangeds Im not so sure about MCH but BRD's Mage's Ballad, a couple DoTs here and there and you can Rain of Death the mob to oblivion.

The problem with Bard AoE is that it requires setup (you need to spread dots around, but they're single target so it takes several globals) and then on top of that it requires Mage's Ballad which works for 30 seconds and then has a 50 sec cooldown.
So if your tank is making one big pull every ~80 seconds and you have time to throw around dots while the pull is happening, then it's fantastic. 400+ potency per global if you count the dot ticks and get a Rain of Death proc to weave in between each Quick Nock.
On the other hand, if you're getting smaller more frequent groups that don't line up with Ballad cooldown and you don't have time to apply dots on the pull? Then Bard AoE is probably the worst of all the dps classses.

[Arkenne]

I don't really know since I haven't tried MCH yet (my comparison wasn't BRD vs the World but as a ranged).

However on the little I've used it, I just DoTed 2 out of maybe 5~6 enemies once each and then I end up throwing RoD like a madman. Even if its not the best of all at least is hella fun when it happens.

But if we talk about BRD vs the world, along with MCH, at least they really don't have to wait for the tank to stop to start attacking the mob. And one really don't even need songs for this either.

[Selova]

My guess is Black Mage is the king overall, Monk is second for massive pulls due to not having any scaling on its AOEs+two TP regens for insane levels of sustain, and Samurai is second for smaller pulls due to all of its attacks scaling down for Subsequent enemies.

At the very least, no one is really bad as far as AOE goes amongst the DPS like Ninja was in early Heavensward as far as I can tell.

Samurai destroys monk on huge pulls, assuming your using kaiten on tenka goken every 2 sen built with mangetsu and oka. While monk has more longevity with 2 tp regen skills, you shouldn't be having issues with tp on Sam unless all your doing is spamming oka and mangetsu. Sam wins in the melee department, no contest.

[Arkenne]

Sam wins in the melee department, no contest.

I am not so sure about that, I feel its more gray than black and white.

For one MNK is also capable of using Fist of Wind and Form Shift to easily keep up on the run and build up GL stacks to be ready on GL3 at the stop.

NIN can go full power from the get-go of the mob formation using Shadewalker and even build up some Ninki on the run, while also having a chance to throw up to 3 Katons (1 normal, 1 critical, 1 doubled) and one doubled Doton (Ninjutsus aren't affected by AoE nerfs).

SAM's on the run scenery, to be fair, could build up Shifu and Jinpu, which well, don't do much for AoE on the run, but having them ready for the stop may be nothing but a plus (besides you could get 2 Sen with them and by ready to Hagakure a Guren on the stop).

I don't know enough of DRGs to talk about them, sadly.

[Dragoonicorn]

Of the melee i would like to note that Nin can in rapid succession cast katon twice then cast fuma, katon, and doton at double potency all the while spamming death blossom and eventually top it off with a hellfrog all within the normal time it takes for a full opener.
Potency wise for just the aoe moves thats 250, 250, 500, 80 dot over 24 seconds, and 400. all the while spamming blossom at 110. At a much faster rate than Sam and with no damage falloff for extra adds.

During a roughly 7 mob pull i was parsing just over 10k after 30 seconds...

[Hellari]

Sam does very good aoe, however the ramp up time is quite high, anywhere from 2-6gcd's + taking into consideration kenki build up. with my red mage friend who I run exclusively if I can go into an aoe fight with everything up and atleast +50kenki I can out dps him quite substantially, but straight from the ground up. I loose every time.