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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    I also appreciate that nobody doubts Alisaie being gay. Just whether or not Lyse is also gay.
    I mean, the game never goes into detail about their sexual preference, so quite honestly they both could be gay, but to assume that they're romantically inclined to one another because of a hug is just dumb.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    I mean, I did give reasons.

    1. Lyse values Alisaie's being alive more than that of the rest of the party, as exhibited by her behavior being different upon seeing others are alive than when she found Alisaie to be alive.

    2. Alisaie's first thoughts after that cutscene are about how Thancred said maidens find scars attractive.

    3. Alisaie has Lyse stay somewhere safe while being comparatively fine with other friends putting themselves in danger.

    4. When people take notice of this fact, Alisaie gets embarrassed and changes the subject.
    1.) Different circumstances
    2.) Speculation
    3.) Different circumstances
    4.) She values Lyse more than the other members? Clearly not proof of anything.

    My point stands. No proof, mostly speculation, none of it facts.
    If you want to think they are, they can be for you. But up to now, nothing is official, nor very likely to be.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    1.) Different circumstances
    2.) Speculation
    3.) Different circumstances
    4.) She values Lyse more than the other members? Clearly not proof of anything.

    My point stands. No proof, mostly speculation, none of it facts.
    If you want to think they are, they can be for you. But up to now, nothing is official, nor very likely to be.
    How is #2 speculation. We heard the quote from Thancred during like 3.2 or 3.3 and I provided a screenshot of that being the first thing she's thinking on post-cutscene.

    #3 isn't different circumstances cuz it's literally the same event. Alisaie goes with Yugiri and Gosetsu to help rescue you, but says Lyse has to stay behind and doesn't provide a reason why. She just gets embarrassed and changes the subject.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    I'm so tired of people assuming any kind of display of caring / friendship automatically has something to do with romance or sexual feelings / orientation. People can care about each other and hug each other without romantic feelings. I know, it's so hard to comprehend.


    If this thread was made in jest please disregard my comment.
    This times a thousand.
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  5. #65
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    I don't agree with them actually being a couple, but I don't really have any problem with people shipping characters.

    I mean, hot person + hot person = hot couple doing sexy things, so no complaints there.

    I think shipping only becomes problematic when people try to insist that the relationships are real and force those beliefs on others (including the creators).
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  6. #66
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    I'm not forcing things on anyone. I made a thread thanking the game's creators for the inclusion and everyone else decided they had to post in this thread on their own.

    They're the ones who decided a girl seeing things as an implied lesbian relationship would not stand and needed to be corrected.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by missybee View Post
    I think shipping only becomes problematic when people try to insist that the relationships are real and force those beliefs on others (including the creators).
    Like in this case
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  8. #68
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    Can we just all stop and remember that this is a child and an adult?

    The elf CHILD cares more about Lyse being safe because Lyse is important to the future of an entire country. You don't send key figures out to the battle field when their existance is more important for the cause.

    Lyse hug the elf CHILD because she is a CHILD and Lyse probably feel like a mother figure.

    That quote the OP keeps bringing up infers no such deeper meaning in the Japanese version.

    I am gay myself but trying make something gay for the point of having something gay is BAD!!!
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    可愛い悪魔

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    I'm not forcing things on anyone.
    I don't think this thread is particularly egregious.

    My statement was more in reference to like, the colossal drama that ensues whenever an Overwatch character isn't canonically a non-binary pansexual rabbitkin who is gay for Hanzo.
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    Last edited by missybee; 06-24-2017 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Can we just all stop and remember that this is a child and an adult?

    The elf CHILD
    *Elezen.

    Elves are a majestic, ageless people with rich culture and language traditions.

    Elezens are fresh linguini with difficult to pronounce clown names.
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