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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    There's also the fact that Lyse is under more pressure now than she ever has before. As Yda, she was always a very passive character, going where she was told to go and doing what she was told to do. Now, she's making decisions and taking charge - when bad things happen, it's because of choices SHE has made. It's bad to think that a friend has died, but it's so much worse to think that a friend has died because you are the one who put them in danger.

    It's not unreasonable to imagine that Lyse really needs a hug in Stormblood, even if she's never been the huggy sort before.
    Agreed. /10char
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    It's not unreasonable to imagine that Lyse really needs a hug in Stormblood, even if she's never been the huggy sort before.
    How can you actually be so cruel to deny the LGBT Community a representative character in the msq... Stop coming up with logic.

    (beware: obvious sarcasm)
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    There's a difference between needing to hug a person and needing a hug. In that scene, Lyse didn't need a hug. She needed to hug Alisaie. There's a nuance to that.

    I also appreciate that nobody doubts Alisaie being gay. Just whether or not Lyse is also gay.
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    Like many have said, I doubt it has anything to do with romance. Those kinds of friendships are common between girls and between people in general.
    There is this mythical thing called "having a bond" with someone. Not to the extent of romance, but a very strong bond nontheless. I'm sure everyone has one friend they have hugged at least once, that one friend you'd take a bullet for despite that person being a bit of a jerk at times and so on.
    I haven't gone much past that point, but that storypoint alone doesn't really make them lesbian.
    Trust me, I have strong yuri goggles on my head at all times and they didn't pick up a thing from that scene.
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    I mean I ship them but to say that this is proof of wlw couple is a far far reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    In that scene, Lyse didn't need a hug. She needed to hug Alisaie. There's a nuance to that.
    The reaching is real!

    Be sure to stretch before you exercise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    There's a difference between needing to hug a person and needing a hug. In that scene, Lyse didn't need a hug. She needed to hug Alisaie. There's a nuance to that.

    I also appreciate that nobody doubts Alisaie being gay. Just whether or not Lyse is also gay.
    Honestly speaking you just sound like you WANT them to be a lesbian couple. You have yet to bring any proper reason and proof into this 'arguement' while simply pointing out that 'it is like that' over and over again.

    Just imagine them beeing a couple, if you need that for your proper gaming experience, but don't make up stuff just so you can claim "There is diversity / LGBT represantation / XYZ in the game".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The reaching is real!

    Be sure to stretch before you exercise!
    I mean, there is. Even putting aside the romance angle when you hug tight onto someone and don't want to let them go you are feeling different things and have different needs than when you need someone to hug you and hold you.

    Like that's just obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    I mean, there is. Even putting aside the romance angle when you hug tight onto someone and don't want to let them go you are feeling different things and have different needs than when you need someone to hug you and hold you.

    Like that's just obvious.
    You are right, If I were hugging one of my closest friends after discovering they didn't actually die and held them tight and didn't want to let them go. I would be feeling overwhelming joy, relief etc as opposed to just feeling depressed and needing something to hold me. If someone saw that scene and assumed romance, well again, reaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Honestly speaking you just sound like you WANT them to be a lesbian couple. You have yet to bring any proper reason and proof into this 'arguement' while simply pointing out that 'it is like that' over and over again.

    Just imagine them beeing a couple, if you need that for your proper gaming experience, but don't make up stuff just so you can claim "There is diversity / LGBT represantation / XYZ in the game".
    I mean, I did give reasons.

    1. Lyse values Alisaie's being alive more than that of the rest of the party, as exhibited by her behavior being different upon seeing others are alive than when she found Alisaie to be alive.

    2. Alisaie's first thoughts after that cutscene are about how Thancred said maidens find scars attractive.

    3. Alisaie has Lyse stay somewhere safe while being comparatively fine with other friends putting themselves in danger.

    4. When people take notice of this fact, Alisaie gets embarrassed and changes the subject.
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