The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

[Alerith]

True. How about Rank 40-ish gear, as opposed to 45+ gear? Like Horn Scale Mail? That way, the lower level encounters still have some degree of value to them for the casuals, such as spiritbonding the armor for some Grade 2/3 Materia?

How about no reward since you aren't doing the fight at the appropriate difficulty? If you wanna kill him for fun, by all means, hack away.

But there shouldn't be any kind of reward for dumbing down the difficulty of a fight.

[Isaaru]

The point of me mentioning Guild Wars 2 here is to illustrate the fact that some MMORPGs are being designed with a forward-thinking mindset that caters to all demographics: PVP, Hardcore Endgame, Casual Endgame, etc.

This is the kind of thinking XIV's developers need to adopt.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...333#post390333

read.

[SilvertearRen]

How about no reward since you aren't doing the fight at the appropriate difficulty? If you wanna kill him for fun, by all means, hack away.

But there shouldn't be any kind of reward for dumbing down the difficulty of a fight.

I'm down with that.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...333#post390333

read.

Did read it, I appreciate what he says, but I feel as though the way he implemented the Ifrit fight did not really dovetail with his statements. Hopefully, after 1.21 it will shape up to be more in line. I will be patient.

Alright, it's about time for me to sign off for the night. I must prepare for the coming week, and I thank those who were civil and respectful in this thread.

And to our Moderators and GM's: I know I'm a tough customer on these forums, and I hope you'll be tolerant with me as you sift through this threadnaught for violations of the ToS. I believe that being open, honest, and flexible is important to building a long term respect for your supporters and detractors. Some people I may disagree with here on this thread, are people I still respect for their willingness to engage me on the issues presented in this thread.

And with that, I bid everybody a good night.

[DoomCky]

why don't you just admit to being a terrible player and find another game

Just close the thead now thats sums this all up :P

edit: just go /toasterbath you cant play this game onhardcore RPing

[tragic]

I freaking hate the ifrit fight. It is way to easy and is not very fun after you learn the fight. It is so boring I feel like I would be better off grinding out materais than farming duplicate ifrit weapons. Now the ifrit encounter did bring some enjoyability to the game for about a week.

[Arksniper]

Um no offense but you really need to stop whining. I was a casual end-gamer in fffxi. It took me hours of patience to get my dalmatica/heca set/black belt/ and 6 jobs fully merited and geared. I was not the first on the server to have any of those I played when I could for the 8 years I played the game. I work and go to school full time so it is not a matter of time it is a matter of skill and patience that is what MMOs are about. Slowly working up to your ultimate goal.

Making the Ifrit fight easier is just ridiculous. Faf/Nidd, Ada/Aspid, Behe/King Behe, Tiamaat, Jormy, Kirin, Sky/Sea Gods and ToAU kings/ Odin were by no means easy but it took them 5+ years to enter all this content in and guess what they were all beat even pandemonium warden and absoulte virtue. No content is unbeatable but all content is not meant to be beaten by every player. If you want that go play WoW. If you wanna have a sense of accomplishment when you get that piece of gear gear after repeated failures or wins and it drops then stick to this game.

ATM Ifrit = all of the aforementioned bosses. There is a lack of content but that isn't Yosi-P's fault. He has just put his park under construction and him and the dev team are doing their job in revamping this game from the ground up. There is more content to be added each patch and some will be easy and some will be hard. I don't think a primal should go down easy they are Gods after all.... (and you cant really scale down a god if you don't want to ruin lore) just my 2 gil...

[Richard_BG]

Player: Yooooshiiiidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Ifrit's toooo haaaarrrrddd.

Dev Team: (to yoshida) Hey so this guy wants a third variation of the fight where he's just a little bit harder than the R25 version of the fight and he doesn't want it to drop any loot.

Yoshida:

Yoshida: NOP

[SilvertearRen]

Richard_BG, somehow I wonder if that would really be his reaction. And you're a little bit off: I don't want the additional option to be slightly harder than R25, but rather, slightly "easier" than R50...

P.S. A little something I thought was appropriate for the incredible size of this thread: Thread started at 6:52PM Pacific, accumulated 296+ posts in 4 hours. I feel guilty for the very fact that they will have to sift through all of this in the morning to look for any offending posts that violate the ToS.

I wonder what our moderators are thinking about that kind of postcount in such a short time frame...here's what I imagine their reaction being like...I hope you guys get a kick out of this.


"What, again?!"
Frisbee, from the racing anime feature film Redline (2009) by Madhouse

In case the mods didn't understand what I was trying to say here, I'm apologizing for the workload I've created for them.

[DaPhro]

This is the kind of thinking XIV's developers need to adopt.

i'm sure the devs will take advice from someone that can't even complete a casual fight

[Richard_BG]

R50 is no harder than R25. So... ┐('～`；)┌