What is this new anti dps healer attitude?

[Keridwyn]

The problem is we no longer are outrageously overgeared for content. Couple that with class changes and the EA/Launch server issues and you've got a pre-salted playerbase that isn't really interested in any more issues. Everyone just needs to slow it down a little bit for a couple months.

One thing though...if you pull a large group and die in the 2.5 seconds it takes me to cast aero 3 you may need to grab a smaller group. Because even had I been casting Cure youd have been dead before it ended.

[MiniTofu]

WHM Life Matters! WLM!

[YitharV2]

I want to second this. A lot of tanks don't seem to understand why mass pulls work. I mean, I see tanks doing big pulls in Copperbell Mines (normal) when no DPS has a single AOE skill. I've also been yelled at while tanking those dungeons for not doing so. So it doesn't surprise me in the least when tanks do the same kind of pull at 30 item levels above the minimum as they do in leveling dungeons. A lot of people seem to play by rote with no actual thought put into why they do what they do.

I think it helps a lot to play all three roles. But, yes, I agree. I did Brayflox with my FC last night. I was pulling 2 groups at a time and then I realized stuff was taking a while to die. Our composition was WAR, DRG, SMN, WHM. So I ask my DRG friend if he has AoE in here, and he said, nope not until 40. Then I said I was going to do small pulls since it just makes more work for our healer. And he said "GOOD" lol.

It probably doesn't help that DPS tell tanks to pull big but they don't tell them why.

[Solica]

And then, there is the other side. More than once have i gotten critisized for not dpsing with astro, while i was keeping everyone at 100% health at all times and buffing like a crazy person. Yeah...how about no.

I find dpsing with a healer extremely boring , risky and unrewarding. Apart from your tanks getting destroyed, as has happened many times on last trial and in 70 dungs already, when you let a tank very low, he will have to use cooldowns that would have probably been needed at another time. And more importantly, when you let your actual dps on very low amounts of health, their will start prioritizing dodging and surviving than maximizing their dps output. Thats actual huge dps loss just because you wanna cast your crappy malefic/stone or w/e. In late HW, this didnt show that much because of the huge gap in gear, but thats not the case in SB especially with the shift from class difficulty to mobs/bosses difficulty. People need to understand this.

[Vidu]

I find dpsing with a healer extremely boring , risky and unrewarding. Apart from your tanks getting destroyed, as has happened many times on last trial and in 70 dungs already, when you let a tank very low, he will have to use cooldowns that would have probably been needed at another time.

As a main tank I assure you: I'm NOT saving my cooldowns for "oh, maybe something is going to happen...!". I used to do this in early content just to realise that that moment barely ever comes and I ended up without having used most of my skills. A good tank will rotate their CDs excatly to give you as a healer more breathing and dpsing time. No good tank is saving their CDs during a normal dungeon run (with the exception of their respective "oh shit"-button maybe)

[Nixxe]

And then, there is the other side. More than once have i gotten critisized for not dpsing with astro, while i was keeping everyone at 100% health at all times and buffing like a crazy person. Yeah...how about no.

Because I don't care if my health is at 100% vs 95% even half as much as I care about shaving a few minutes off the run. Granted, I don't make an issue of it in dungeons, but I do secretly grimace and wish the healer would find it in themselves to be useful.

[Keridwyn]

And then, there is the other side. More than once have i gotten critisized for not dpsing with astro, while i was keeping everyone at 100% health at all times and buffing like a crazy person. Yeah...how about no.

Buffing like a crazy person, why didn't I think to do this instead of dps?!

Oh...wait...WHM.

If a WHM isn't casting heals dps is pretty much the only thing we can do.

[Kethic]

I only get this when tanks decide to speed run the content with massive pulls while the group doesn't have the gear or dps. Well, there was that one monk that told me to heal more, then complained that I was using Medica2 for AoE damage, but whatever. Cross-World blacklists are nice, and I don't have the time or patience for the drama.

The problem for me is, the tanks think I can keep the group alive forever. Sometimes we can pull a rabbit out of the hat, but sometimes there's no saving a large pull. Heaven forbid we slow down a little bit to avoid the wipe.

[Niwashi]

People are used to running content while drastically overgeared for it, and now they're presented with new content they don't have that advantage on. So everyone's feeling a bit squishier than they're used to and may need the healer to focus on their real job a bit more than they used to have to. It's only an issue if people fail to adapt to that difference.

[Powercow]

Because I don't care if my health is at 100% vs 95% even half as much as I care about shaving a few minutes off the run. Granted, I don't make an issue of it in dungeons, but I do secretly grimace and wish the healer would find it in themselves to be useful.

B-but your Spirits Within damage will go down slightly if you're not at 100% the entire time! :O

Seriously though, if a DPS is at 75%, let the HoTs or ancillary AoE heals top them off. Unless you're a scholar. Then you have my condolences.