Is house selling okay?

[MomomiMomi]

Don't think they've ever given us a concrete or consistent answer. I'm pretty sure plenty of people do it without incident, but do it at your own risk.

[Rinuko]

The whole "selling with a huge profit" is so vague too and subjective.

[syunikiss]

It's technically against the ToS, but there is a lot of controversy around it (as you can probably already tell by the responses to the thread so far.) If you do try to sell a house and someone reports you, you may get in trouble and you may not. It's a coin flip. The GMs seem to be extremely inconsistent in doing anything about it. The only thing I can say for certain is that the more you overcharge for the plot over what it is actually worth (i.e. you are doing it for profit and not just trying to recoup your losses from buying it in the first place,) the more likely you are to be punished.

Basically, sell your plot at your own risk.

I wonder what is the proper way to sell a house/plot that doesn't goes against the ToS?

[Hirskuwil]

It is allowed. Yoshi made a statement saying it was, though, selling for huge profit is another story, that can and will get you into trouble if enough players report you.

However, if you own a plot privately, and want to move worlds, you can now remove your building permit (don't give up the plot!) and on the world transfer page, it will tell you that, you will get the full price of the plot + 3,000,000 gil to cover any non-removable items, even if you had none this works. When you login, you will automatically receive your plot cost + 3M Gil.

This doesn't work if you have an FC with a house.

Isn't this only when moving from a congested world to a preferred world though. I am wanting to move servers to be closer to my physical location, but I am on a standard world rather than a congested world so as I understand it I need to sell my house privately first if I want to recoup any of the money!

EDIT: never mind, it seems Leviathan has been upgraded to a congested world so I can do this ^.^

EDIT2: it's actually back to being a standard world T.T

[MistakeNot]

It never has, and never will be okay. Don't listen to people that pretend that it is okay.

Is that so? Well, since you are so certain, could you please tell us what rule it would be breaking?

[Rinuko]

Is that so? Well, since you are so certain, could you please tell us what rule it would be breaking?

I do not think its in the TOS unless someone can prove me wrong. Yoshi has openly said he don't like people do it for a huge profit (whatever that means)

[Blackbird1]

if your selling only for original price of what you paid i cant see why they would bother you though asking to much does actually fall under harassment between rmt and tos so if your smart sel for what you paid only then you shouldnt have to fear

[Rymm]

I wonder what is the proper way to sell a house/plot that doesn't goes against the ToS?

From what I understood, they had to make it against the ToS so that they would have the ability to punish people who abuse it if they choose to. Most GMs will turn a blind eye to it though if it's obvious you are just trying to make back what you put into it in the first place- selling it at or near the original plot price. The only time I've ever heard of any action being taken is when someone marks up a house for 3-4 times or more what it costs to buy it from the server, obviously done for profit.

[Voltron_HD]

I agree with all that said its okay without price gouging. Trying to recoup the cost of the land any maybe a tiny bit more, I say, if its worth it to the person buying, fair game. But offering a grade 4 small for 10 mil is ridiculous. Be fair and I don't see a problem, I THINK gm's are of the same mindset. With all that said, your house will not sell. Not with Kagane housing district one patch from being released.

[JunseiKei]

I'm on the ever over populated balmung with login problems, erp and the ever present housing crisis, so of course the pf pops up now and then with people looking to buy or sell a house and I was just wondering what the official stance was on this practice since I know there has been some drama regarding people selling houses. Is it okay? Does it break ToS? Under certain conditions?

ThanKS in advance for any insight.

House selling violates the ToS under fraud. A player cannot guarantee the sale of the item in question to another player.
House flipping is also a violation to the ToS.

The short: If you're doing anything other than buying a house under the intended mechanic, it's a violation.