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    Rannie Lfey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    And now I'm kicking myself for not paying attention to the quest title, 'cause I've been doing the MSQ as Monk, but would have liked to switch back to WHM for this scene...

    You're in luck since all you have to do is switch to healer and go to an inn and rewatch the cutscene in the journal. When you do that it will still work with the job you chose. It's why I checked it out afterwards by switching to nin.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Edwin Li
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    There are also Race and Gender Specific dialogues in 4.0 MSQ as well.
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There are also Race and Gender Specific dialogues in 4.0 MSQ as well.
    The game was always really on it for gendered dialogue, but SB has many more notes for race, job, and GC rank and alliance, all for which I say, "Thank you, and it's about time."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The game was always really on it for gendered dialogue, but SB has many more notes for race, job, and GC rank and alliance, all for which I say, "Thank you, and it's about time."
    Well i am not talking about the "sir" and "mistress" stuff as that is relatively minor and hardly "unique".

    I am talking full on Unique dialogues exclusively for the Female and Male Genders that can only happen based on the character's gender.

    While male characters are treated with a certain level of repect the female character will get some "girls weak" comments and "get back into the kitchen" treatments due to the NPCs involved in this certain area of the MSQ.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-22-2017 at 09:43 AM.

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    Do Ninjas get specific dialogues during the sniping quests with Yugiri?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post


    Monks get the first, non monks get the second
    It may just require having the soulstone because I got that dialog while playing Paladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I am talking full on Unique dialogues exclusively for the Female and Male Genders that can only happen based on the character's gender.

    While male characters are treated with a certain level of repect the female character will get some "girls weak" comments and "get back into the kitchen" treatments due to the NPCs involved in this certain area of the MSQ.
    I have to come at you for this because FFXIV's complete and utter lack of "ladies are weaker by nature" sexism in any form of the game was always a conscious decision in writing and portrayal that I've greatly appreciated.

    Adding that to a game that's established so many powerful female characters, both heroic and villainous, only to start peppering in gross, sexist dialogue of that ilk now would be mind-numbing at best and a disservice to what's been established by the creative.

    TLDR: Keep that frail gender garbage in the garbage where it belongs.
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  8. #18
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    Sak-e Pota
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I have to come at you for this because FFXIV's complete and utter lack of "ladies are weaker by nature" sexism in any form of the game was always a conscious decision in writing and portrayal that I've greatly appreciated.

    Adding that to a game that's established so many powerful female characters, both heroic and villainous, only to start peppering in gross, sexist dialogue of that ilk now would be mind-numbing at best and a disservice to what's been established by the creative.

    TLDR: Keep that frail gender garbage in the garbage where it belongs.
    They do acknowledge your strength in the end, but they admit that they wouldn't accept you as one of their own because you're a woman. Because that's how it's always been for them. It's not sexism for the sake of sexism, it has a lore reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annana View Post
    They do acknowledge your strength in the end, but they admit that they wouldn't accept you as one of their own because you're a woman. Because that's how it's always been for them. It's not sexism for the sake of sexism, it has a lore reasoning.
    Yep. The NPCs involved act this way and provided these Male and Female unique dialogues because it is their culture. It embrace the actual lore of these NPCs and do no shy away from what it has been established what their culture is like which for these bunch of NPCs is a Male dominant culture as the lore stated for these NPCs.

    It is actually quite reminiscent of what life was like for cultures that currently or once live as Tribes such as Native Americans. The male were chosen to grow up to be warriors for fighting other tirbes and hunting large game and the females were grown to perform gathering and cooking. It split the task required for their culture and was a normal thing for them as keeping the female safe away from the fighting was important since the females are the ones who give birth to children. Of course this is also why it leads to their different beliefs between males and females but also showed that female life was more valued than a male since if all females died in a tribe then the Tribe is garantee to be wiped out even if some males survived if not from being killed then simply over time.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-23-2017 at 12:25 AM.

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    Unfortunately SMN will never get acknowledged outside of their questline since we're supposed to be ''super rare''. Which is really weird considering how tied to allagan history summoners are. We don't even get cinematic screen time when every other class so far has. We can summon this big friggin Bahamut, and no one notices us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I have to come at you for this because FFXIV's complete and utter lack of "ladies are weaker by nature" sexism in any form of the game was always a conscious decision in writing and portrayal that I've greatly appreciated.

    Adding that to a game that's established so many powerful female characters, both heroic and villainous, only to start peppering in gross, sexist dialogue of that ilk now would be mind-numbing at best and a disservice to what's been established by the creative.

    TLDR: Keep that frail gender garbage in the garbage where it belongs.
    There is sexism and then there are scientific physical facts, and that fact is demonstrated to the most extreme of levels in this game too. Look at Roe and Au Ra males compared to their women lol. In our world, a male can actually be smaller, shorter or thinner than a female and vice versa. In the world of FFXIV there is no such exception between the genders.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 06-23-2017 at 09:50 AM.

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