Shield Oath makes Sheltron useless.

[Kyt]

Sheltron does need rework. Casting holy spirit just causes to much mana strain on the PLD just to get enough oath to block a heavy tank buster.

As often as Susano does his water cleave hit would I like to pop Shelton for each one. Sadly I don't get enough oath and I end up taking the brunt of the attack.

Oath needs to be generated faster in shield oath or Shelton needs adjustment.

Mana strain? Holy spirit is embedded into our rotation now. You're casting 5 holy spirit per minute minimum, which gives you 2 shelltrons per minute, which is the same as HW. There should be nothing else you're using your mana on. Clemency is a highly situational ability that should be used when things are going poorly, or when you're offtanking, and you aren't using flash if you're tanking a boss for the most part. What else do you need your mana for?

[Kerwin]

Mana strain? Holy spirit is embedded into our rotation now. You're casting 5 holy spirit per minute minimum, which gives you 2 shelltrons per minute, which is the same as HW. There should be nothing else you're using your mana on. Clemency is a highly situational ability that should be used when things are going poorly, or when you're offtanking, and you aren't using flash if you're tanking a boss for the most part. What else do you need your mana for?

I'm looking to strengthen my DEFENSIVE abilities, and that's reserving my mana for Clemency. I don't want to burn it on Holy Spirit as a main tank (Especially with a huge damage reduction anyways from shield oath.)

I had a good idea though. Seeing how Shield Oath does not generate a lot of Oath Gage in per say a primal 1 on 1 fight why don't we have CLEMENCY generate Oath Gage as well? This will strengthen the role of a DEFENSIVE main tank.

Thoughts?

[Reynhart]

Seeing how Shield Oath does not generate a lot of Oath Gage in per say a primal 1 on 1 fight why don't we have CLEMENCY generate Oath Gage as well? This will strengthen the role of a DEFENSIVE main tank.

Can this be copyright claimed ? No ? Oh, crap...

Possible "fix". Make casting any Divine Spell increase the Oath Gauge by 20. So, Holy Spirit and Clemency.

Thoughts?

On top of increasing our defensive role, it would also make sheltron usage less clunky before Holy Spirit.

[Kyt]

I'm looking to strengthen my DEFENSIVE abilities, and that's reserving my mana for Clemency. I don't want to burn it on Holy Spirit as a main tank (Especially with a huge damage reduction anyways from shield oath.)

I had a good idea though. Seeing how Shield Oath does not generate a lot of Oath Gage in per say a primal 1 on 1 fight why don't we have CLEMENCY generate Oath Gage as well? This will strengthen the role of a DEFENSIVE main tank.

Thoughts?

Unfortunately, dps as a main tank still is an important stat. That's why you see tanks slot strength in materia slots. Your job isn't to heal yourself in raids. Obviously play however you want, but the fundamental way paladin is optimally played right now revolved around your 2 phase dps rotation and doesn't typically use clemency unless it's an emergency.