Criticism on Stormblood's Monk

[RyuDragnier]

Echoing a few other monks here on the forum, all I can say is just wait -when you ding 70 it will all come together. Trust me! The amount of crit hits that rain down is freakin mind-boggling. And I'm not even at i300 yet. Plus, having access to way more Forbidden Chakra is just icing on the cake. And that is why MNK is still on top of the DPS chart over SAM because SE knows what it's doing (as hard as that is for some to believe).

The only downside I have is that our DPS is going to be dependent on luck, at least a little bit. I've gotten 10 crits in a row before without a single chakra stack. Sadly that RNG may make or break fights depending on how close things get.

[Xau]

Echoing a few other monks here on the forum, all I can say is just wait -when you ding 70 it will all come together. Trust me! The amount of crit hits that rain down is freakin mind-boggling. And I'm not even at i300 yet. Plus, having access to way more Forbidden Chakra is just icing on the cake. And that is why MNK is still on top of the DPS chart over SAM because SE knows what it's doing (as hard as that is for some to believe).

i am plaiying at 70, even whit brotherhood and deep meditation i still hardly get any chakra stack, usualy it takes me around 3 minutes to see the 5 chakras refilled, and that what i see tons of crits, me luck is bad

only 3 times so far i have seen i got the 5 chakra stacks on less of 5 seconds

personally i wish they could just not relly on rng to make job mechanics, is bad design

[DatPotato]

You do? That's beyond bad luck. I did susano'o EX or even à dungeon with just another dps physical and tank and I'm usually able to do at least 2 TFC during brotherhood window. Only thing I could say is seek Crit gear maybe? Or it was very very very sick misfortune at lvl 70. To have 180 sec for a TFC

[Raionx]

So I'm 70 now and I tried stacking Crit to the point i had over 1500 crit rating. I still only see 1 forbidden chakra every 3 min or so and typically in dungeons with a samurai and a tank I get about 2 chakra per brotherhood not 2 forbidden chakra. 2 chakra.

DPS is real lackluster. Gonna try stacking skill speed for a bit see if thats better cause stacking crit bad. Really considering changing mains.

[KingFrost]

Not even 70 and I find myself getting several chakra from random mobs my level in the field. In dungeons I get a lot because of AoE. If you have IR and use Arm of the Destroyer + Rockbreaker (With the ideal 5+ enemies), you'll be wishing Purification had a shorter CD.

Still not looking forward to Tackle Mastery. :/ But I am getting hype for finally getting Brotherhood. For the first time, I wanna get good ass gear and stack SkS and Crit for constant Big Damage.

Will update my opinion as I level.

[Fireselecta]

... And that is why MNK is still on top of the DPS chart over SAM because SE knows what it's doing (as hard as that is for some to believe).

Sorry to say this but no, SAM has a crazy DPS, higher than monks... I'm not the best monk ever obviously, but, I know my job and I knew the fight I did yesterday with a SAM (Susano Ex).
The SAM was outdpsing us (we were two monks in the party), even when I had 'luck' and got many FC along with few mechanics to deal with, close to 100% GL3 uptime (only lost it once for the sword phase), positionnals done correctly and Demolish applied all the time, the SAM was on top for every kills (and the RDM far behind btw...).
So yeah, we've probably lost our spot on top of the DPS chart...

[KingFrost]

Was this taking Brotherhood into account at all? I can't help but feel that would close the gap, ironically more so with the Sam being there.

[DatPotato]

Well I seriously doubt we Monk can come close to à Sam to be honest, saw that pic of à Sam doing à 43k direct Crit (that's more than à LB1) but people are so quick to react and forget one thing. When raid will come, people are going to see à massive wave of readjustment.

TL;DR : everyone should Brace themselves for a wave of potential nerf incoming

[edgefusion]

Sorry to say this but no, SAM has a crazy DPS, higher than monks... I'm not the best monk ever obviously, but, I know my job and I knew the fight I did yesterday with a SAM (Susano Ex).
The SAM was outdpsing us (we were two monks in the party), even when I had 'luck' and got many FC along with few mechanics to deal with, close to 100% GL3 uptime (only lost it once for the sword phase), positionnals done correctly and Demolish applied all the time, the SAM was on top for every kills (and the RDM far behind btw...).
So yeah, we've probably lost our spot on top of the DPS chart...

We've definitely lost our top spot on the chart. If this is to be believed we're not even 2.....or 3, or 4, or 5. In Heavensward people didn't want us because although we had the personal DPS we didn't bring the raid utility. In Stormblood we don't have the personal DPS and we don't have enough raid utility.

[Guesswhat]

Correct, Riddle of Fire is poorly designed. The % loss in speed makes me only use it if I have several of my burst skills ready.

In another thread I suggested that RoF could be changed like this:
RoF makes all your weaponskills grant a GL stack + increase weaponskill speed. Now you can actually use Tornado kick without popping PB or wait for situation.
Or simply make it so TK doesn't deplete your GLs + increase skill speed while RoF is active.