Summoner Over-Nered (and A few other Problems)

[MortalWare]

My ideal Summoner would require a major overhaul but would be like this:

Titan Egi: Awesome Tank. Could off tank in normal dungeons if needed.
Garuda Egi: Single target DPS.
Ifrit Egi: AOE DPS.

Pet casting is instant, or at least fairly fast, so you can swap between them during dungeons when required.

Skills actually used by the player are pet commands directing them on when to cast their AOE, single target damage or agro control ablities in rotations. Maybe keep the DoTs, but that's it.

I don't want to be just another Mage DPS class.. if I wanted that I would just play a Black Mage. I want to control pets and use them as the main focus of my abilities.

Too much to expect I know but I'm very disappointed in the direction Summoner has gone.

[Texa]

This suggestion is completely gross.

Can you please tone down the personal insults to people who don't agree with you on video game magic a little?

[Ariomi]

yes give him all. Give SMN the damage burst of a BLM and the heal of a red mage (Though smn isnt a hybrid healing FF job)

You are delusional. I was referring to how Smn's single target was neutered as well as their Aoe. But you no idea what you are talking about in the slightest in regards to summoner. Do you know any other class that has infinite Mana like black mage? Or that is as mobile and versatile as Red mage?

You know any other caster with a gap closer or that can jump away? None of these make Red mage unique at all. Red mage totally wouldnt be unique anymore if Summoner had skills that were buffed into being useable. ./sarcasm

[Tonkra]

I'm asking for a healing skill, that Summoner already currently possesses, to be buffed so the spell, like the rest of the class can be useful.
Currently Physic needs a buff as much as Summoner does.

And why, as a summoner, a pet heal wouldnt be enough for you? I really dont get your point. You cant ask now for becoming a semi-healer and on the other hand to get damage buffed. that wont work at all. Additionally it draws of the own unique role that RDM has now. RDM's uniqueness isnt his medicore damage it is his semi-support with Vita.
And this is what RDM was ever about, SMN's role isnt about healing.

As i said heal for the pet would be enough.

My ideal Summoner would require a major overhaul but would be like this:

Titan Egi: Awesome Tank. Could off tank in normal dungeons if needed.
Garuda Egi: Single target DPS.
Ifrit Egi: AOE DPS.

Pet casting is instant, or at least fairly fast, so you can swap between them during dungeons when required.

Skills actually used by the player are pet commands directing them on when to cast their AOE, single target damage or agro control ablities in rotations. Maybe keep the DoTs, but that's it.

I don't want to be just another Mage DPS class.. if I wanted that I would just play a Black Mage. I want to control pets and use them as the main focus of my abilities.

Too much to expect I know but I'm very disappointed in the direction Summoner has gone.

Thats what i was asking in an other thread here






please support

If you not already did
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Bahamut-now..

[JunseiKei]

So, glancing at this thread, I see the complaint that summoner lost DPS when compared to the last expansion.

So tell me, and the main thing that should really be asked here, how does its DPS stack against the other jobs?

[Caduagm]

useless stuff.

Dude, you don't even have SMN at least on level 60, you DON'T KNOW what we are talking here and about we are talking here, go level up your SMN, you have no clue what is actually going on.

[Tonkra]

Dude, you don't even have SMN at least on level 60, you DON'T KNOW what we are talking here and about we are talking here, go level up your SMN, you have no clue what is actually going on.

And you cant even argument why a pet heal wouldnt be enough for a Summoner.
You cant ask for a better party member heal to become a semi-healer and on the other hand to improve your damage.


Or how in any way the damage lack of a summoner would be solved by implementing a stronger physick heal.

this is ridiculous as its best. Why do you ask for a better physick heal if the real problem is the damage lack of all i could read in the threads about summoner.
I moreover thing the problems of SMN lie somewhere else. and yes i stopped leveling SMN long time ago because i didnt like how they worked SMN out in this game. As i talked about in here (which is more about the visuals itself but also the pets):
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Bahamut-now

[Ilenya]

And you cant even argument why a pet heal wouldnt be enough for a Summoner.

Or how in any way the damage lack of a summoner would be solved by implementing a stronger physick heal.

this is ridiculous as its best. Why do you ask for a better physick heal if the real problem is the damage lack of all i could read in the threads about summoner.

I am fairly certain no one has said that having sustain back would not be helpful. Actually, thinking about it, having a trait where casting physick also sustains your pet would probably work, regardless on other changes to physick.

[Mature]

My only problem with SMN is that I feel there aren't many actions but fester Tri disaster and bahamut.

Apart from that I'm not really that fussed tbh

Whatever they want to add is more than welcome BUT DO NOT touch bahamut. This is something myself a lot more have been wanting for a long time.

I wouldn't mind having miasma 2 back

[Paladinleeds]

Dude, you don't even have SMN at least on level 60, you DON'T KNOW what we are talking here and about we are talking here, go level up your SMN, you have no clue what is actually going on.

I do have SMN at 60. And I agree with his ideas. He put them forward eloquently in the thread and with good reasoning and honestly, I think they make sense. I don't think someone's low level stops them being able to put forth ideas, without being dismissed as "You haven't levelled it, you don't know what we're talking about."