So when are bans being thrown out..

[MrSmiley]

I would much rather they do something about this stupid **** of getting randomly 90k mid gameplay then sent into back of queue, I'll queue in fair and square, stop instantly dropping me and forcing me back into queue.

Been on Balmung since day 1, everyone I know is here, Im ok with waiting on queues, I get it its full. But they seem intent on treating us like garbage and making us suffer to try force us off instead of actually doing something about it. Sorry I cant convince every person that has been my friend since 2.0 or even 1.0 to transfer off with me

This server **** is stuff I dealt with in mmo's over 10 years ago and seen in no other *notable* mmo but they insist on some archaic system and to never fix it, pisses me off.

If I dc, let me reconnect, that's all I freaking want. I want it more than the dc's themselves being fixed.

[LunarEmerald]

This afk thing is only a problem when new expansions launch. Give it a month and there will be no reason to anymore.

[Rasylia]

Honestly, when i get home after 10 hours of work, and have to wait 2-3 hours to then play 1 hour... i think logging in in the morning and then avoid afk kicking doesnt sound so bad to me anymore. As of now i won't be able to play more than 1 hour per day just because of the freaking que times. Awesome.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Once again you didn't explain how you'd enforce this. You want GMs to go around banning everyone who happened to go AFK while crafting or interacting with anything? I'm sure that totally wouldn't have a lot of false positives. The point is that you can never prove intent. You'll never know if that guy crafting AFK is doing it purposefully, or if they got called away for something mid craft.

Well...
If they're sitting in a craft for 10+ minutes without any activity, refund them the materials and boot them out of the crafting interface.

Same with interactions.
If they're in an interaction for 10+ minutes without any activity, boot them out of the interaction without progressing it.


At that point, the regular afk timer will be able to properly kick them out if they're truely afk.
And if they're not, they haven't lost anything.


Now, I know this would take coding work to do, and would unlikely be able to be finished and implemented before things settle down for this expansion.
But it is something to consider for next time.

[Aeeninwen_Taldel]

It wouldn't really be fair to ban people for this, all they have to do is make a timer the moment you go inactive and after a certain time it logs you out to the main screen. If they were to ban for it, I'm afraid it would take alot of their subs away.

[MaikoRaines]

For people that abuse the work around on the afk timer? I know I know, I'm on Balmung, why aren't you transferring off of Balmung then, and all that worthless tripe people throw around, but when it gets to the point that you see several people unable to play, and the /only/ choice is to play at hours that nobody who actually has things to do in the real world can play?

So... bad crafters for autocrafting items to apparently avoid the AFK limitation? Sorry boss, I autocraft/mass produce items when I am not in the middle of grinding fates. The functionality is there for me to do so, why shouldn't I use it?

I also go AFK when I need to, you know, do real world things while I am crafting, which crafting is a thing I do to make money. Not going to mindlessly watch my crafts go up..

Also, when they start handing out bans (and I doubt they will) pretty sure they won't be telling you when they do.

[Smol]

It seems kind of weird to potentially ban people for employing a function that is in the game by design.

If I am going to make a stack of 99 something-or-anothers, I don't generally want to sit there and watch the synthesis. Moreover, wouldn't it be difficult to glean people's ill intent? People could be completely unaware of the fact that hanging on a synth will keep them in-game indefinitely.

Kick people out of the game for being idle for a long time? Yeah, absolutely. No one in their right mind is going to sit on a really expensive synth long enough to get booted from the game. Ban though? That seems a little much.

[MaikoRaines]

Ban though? That seems a little much.

Hard to see reason when one sits on a throne of self-privilege. =/

Now if you want to actually ban people, how about obvious botters and gil sellers? Two people in my server are known botters. Multiple reports and nothing. Probably because they have multiple accounts they pay at least $100.00 per month for. Why ban someone when you're funding the game? Why not let a little harmless Botany farming bottage happen? (end sarcasm here)

tl;dr - ban things worth banning.

[Blackbird1]

the big issue are the ones using macros to avoid afk timers i seen them do this in hsw dunno about 2.0 more then likely though

[Niwashi]

I do think they could make their AFK detection software a bit smarter, so it'd be harder to circumvent and the auto AFK logout could work more reliably. It's just a question of whether the problem is going to exist long enough for the extra development to be worth the effort. (And even then, some people would come up with sophisticated enough bot programs to still avoid it anyway.)