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  1. #101
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    Mazora_Espeon's Avatar
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    Raltz Waltz
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I think all of you who said that transferring is an option should ask yourselves this question... If the government were to tell you that you are given the following two options...

    1) Cope/deal with "the suffering" that you're currently experiencing and wait for it to pass.

    -or-

    2) Move to a different city/state/country that has little to no suffering, but to do so would mean that you couldn't or may never ever see your friends and family again.

    Would you take it?

    Everyone understands that the reasons to either stay or leave a place. There are a list of consequences and ramifications to consider when leaving a place that you may NEVER be able to return to. The first question anyone has in their mine is why should they move to someplace else. The second thing they think of is what will they gain and what will they lose from this move. This isn't a simple a different apartment/city/state/country for a while and then move back. YOU CAN NEVER COME BACK TO A CONGESTED SERVER ONCE YOU MOVE. Why do I say this? Because while it has been said that the congested servers may reopen again, I highly doubt that will ever happen seeing as how the idea is to get people of these congested and highly populated servers.

    Now, you may say it's not a big deal to just move a server which is true if you're someone that plays by yourself, but it's different once you have come to call a place that is your home such as the argument that someone made earlier about being part of an Free Company for more than over 3 years and have since considered those people as their friends and to an extent with other people, their family. People such as these would and will not be willing to transfer off a server if it means losing the people that they have come to love and care about, as well as, like/want to play with these people. Another thing to consider is that these highly congested/over populated servers have since the beginning of FFXIV: ARR created/become their own community. So, another thing to consider is if people are willing to move out of a community that they have become adjusted and settled in. So yes... the main point of my argument is about people and community. There is another point to mention involving the economy, but I rarely ever buy stuff on the marketboard.

    Of course, I'm saying all of this as someone from the Balmung server. And there is a MAJOR difference between Balmung and the other servers in that people are willing to do things out of the goodness and kindness of their hearts. People are willing to gather or craft things for you for free if you were to ask nicely. Other people on the server are willing to offer assistance and help you through content if you ask nicely. If you are nice, helpful, polite and respectful to someone, they will more than likely be/do the same and return that goodness and kindness back to you. Grant it... these are mostly just from the people and things that I have experienced and I'm sure others have others may have had different experiences, but the overall idea to all of this is the same. It's all about the community of a server along with other things that an established community can offer and has offered already that a developing server cannot or may not be able to do. So while the transferring from a server is an option, it isn't an option for everyone given the potential gains and losses. That is why telling someone to just move someplace isn't that simple when you can't move back to the place you're moving from.
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    Last edited by Mazora_Espeon; 06-20-2017 at 03:01 PM.
    Epicness...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57865-Summary-of-the-FFXIV-ARR-EO%28r%29%28z%29AE-Trailer

  2. #102
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    savageink's Avatar
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    Move complete msq the move back. That's what I did.
    ummm...how would you move back?
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  3. #103
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazora_Espeon View Post
    Would you take it?
    Moving is a very real thing people do, sometimes REALLY far distance.

    I moved to California from Indiana because I like it better out here. Does it suck leaving my family and friends? Yeah, sure. But, it's not a bad deal.

    Edit: Speaking of moving, I'm reminded of those shows about the god-awful places that people absolutely refuse to move out of for no good reason. That one guy who says "This is my land and I'm not leaving!" as his neighbor houses are swallowed by sinkholes. Always boggled my mind.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 06-20-2017 at 02:07 PM.

  4. #104
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    BlastHardcheese's Avatar
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    Green Flame
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    Omega
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I moved yesterday from Cerberus, logged in instantly, bought a housing plot by the beach for a reasonable price and enjoyed my evening.

    I do understand the wrinkle of people having a FC to consider but if you don't: It's a good option.
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  5. #105
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    ESO is no where NEAR as popular of a game. Not only that it is pay to win. You cannot compare free to play (aka pay to win) games to a sub based game.
    Eso is as popular as FFXIV, and no it is no pay to win.
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  6. #106
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    Mel Az
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Eso is as popular as FFXIV, and no it is no pay to win.
    Doubt it. I honestly doubt there is as many players. Also ESO has become pay to win. Have you seen the crown store recently? It puts me off so much.. They don't even put out enough content to slap that price on their ingame stuff. I LOVE ESO, but at the same time I'm not blind to what's happening.
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  7. #107
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Brynhildr
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilyua View Post
    When you are playing only 2h-3h per day and the queue time is 2.5h-3h, the result is:

    Wait a minute....you're on Balmung. You really cannot be upset when they offered folks a free server transfer to alleviate this. Do you know how many MMOS wont even do that?

    I picked Gilgamesh and I knew it would be insane...but I cannot complain about the long wait times because I KNEW that coming in and since I refuse a server transfer I cannot complain about it.
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  8. #108
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Well quite a few people choose to play on balmung even knowing the server was overpopulated which is why is was always locked to new characters. Only players on balmung that have legit complaint about not wanting to transfer off are native players.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    ESO [...] is pay to win. You cannot compare free to play (aka pay to win) games to a sub based game.
    Maybe play a game before you bash it, my dude.
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  10. #110
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    Talec's Avatar
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    Violet Drakarys
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    Twintania
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I am not gonna use capital letters. I am not gonna scream, shout or typing bad words. But I wanna say that the OP, beside the rant, has a solid point. Currently the game is unplayable for casuals like me. I arrive at home around 18:30 and 18:45. That is usual my timewindow to Play the game until 22:00. But I end up most of my time in Queue. I wasnt able to play properly yesterday, I wont be able to play properly today and honestly I have given up to play this game during week for atleast 2 weeks. And I am still paying the sub right now.

    I am not screaming about my rights to play like many others. I can spend the time with something else. But having paid for a month while I cannot play does hurt somewhat once you have a tight budget like mine. I wish SE would atleast allow me to stop my subscription until the situation stabilizes. I could safe the Money and do something else.
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    Last edited by Talec; 06-20-2017 at 11:09 PM.

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