DRK is going to be Nerfed in Stormblood

[LegolasT]

Hey to drk 70 before complaining that one alot of these "complainers" haven't even mastered the jobs it's absolutely pointless to complain with out mastering the job and take time with it building a rotation. I play drk and war and I don't complain about a job until I master them perfectly and then put suggestions just read one post of here Sayo f I haven't learned quitus but its a nerf. Master the jobs guys build your rotation and then speak a week later after!

[Mnemosynia]

Hey to drk 70 before complaining that one alot of these "complainers" haven't even mastered the jobs it's absolutely pointless to complain with out mastering the job and take time with it building a rotation.

So your saying if you played a DRK through all of the content from HW that includes a12s, Zuvarun, sophia etc etc. And you looked at spread sheets as well noting that there is a dps loss, And you look at the your mitigation skills and you've lost Bloodbath, Reprisal, Dark Dance, Shadowskin on the tank front. It it was replaced with shitty version of them or not at all. Thats a lost on the dps and mitigation front just before you even login mind you.

Your saying, that we can't make an educated opinion from what we know?
I actually want you to stop playing DRK's out of the share amount of disrespect you just dished out to almost every competent DRK on this forum. So please keep your opinions to yourself from now on when it comes to playing DRKs i don't think your qualified.

[Jimsvaliant]

Your saying, that we can't make an educated opinion from what we know?
I actually want you to stop playing DRK's out of the share amount of disrespect you just dished out to almost every competent DRK on this forum. So please keep your opinions to yourself from now on when it comes to playing DRKs i don't think your qualified.

Alright chill out Mar 2017. Rampart is no different than shadowskin and gaining the blackest night gives Drk the best on demand mitigation ability. Every time I see one of your posts you're just spreading vitriol. We don't know how tenacity is going to be weighted and no one has confirmed how our DPS places outside of theory crafting. If you don't like the gameplay changes to dark arts that's your opinion. I'm not the only one who is enjoying the changes to single target damage. I could care less about my AoE damage.

[LegolasT]

Your saying, that we can\\\\\\'t make an educated opinion from what we know?
I actually want you to stop playing DRK\\\\\\'s out of the share amount of disrespect you just dished out to almost every competent DRK on this forum. So please keep your opinions to yourself from now on when it comes to playing DRKs i don\\\\\\'t think your qualified.[/QUOTE]


So I disrespected you by saying play the job first then speak??? Lol see this is the childish shit that makes this post. I simply simply said play the job if you have a 70 drk then talk most of you if not all don\\'t even have a 70 drk and from other threads from experienced tanks and drk tanks they don\\'t even see a nerf. The only change I see drk needs it just a reduction on delirum cost from 50 to 25 all in all as a 65 drk no complaints until I MASTER the job and rotation. It\\'s that simple

[Mnemosynia]

Alright chill out Mar 2017.

You can look up my character and look at where my gear comes from, just saying i've tanked all the content hundreds of levels of palace millions of gil farmed i bough a guild estate with my buddies. Now that you've attempted to attack my skills set and knowledge of the game with out even check out if i have said accomplishments like the moron you are with no epic or rare mounts where your grind at? I can point out stupid things too.

Your prolly not the only one who's enjoying DRKs but what i can say is that you and your elk no matter how misguided your are, are infact the minority of DRK players. Also at the very least my numbers are reflected in math and vast tanking experience in all of the dungeons in HW most in ARR all raids and trials in both. And to add to that you didn't even attempt to address any of my points whether they were right or wrong you sited my start time and that fact your having fun.

And paladins have the best on demand damage reduction with hollowed ground with all that playtime you couldnt figure that out huh

So I disrespected you by saying play the job first then speak??? Lol see this is the childish shit that makes this post. I simply simply said play the job if you have a 70 drk then talk most of you if not all don\\'t even have a 70 drk and from other threads from experienced tanks and drk tanks they don\\'t even see a nerf. The only change I see drk needs it just a reduction on delirum cost from 50 to 25 all in all as a 65 drk no complaints until I MASTER the job and rotation. It\\'s that simple

Not much has change outside of have LESS skills LESS tank cool downs LESS offensive abilities as well, and the new things we got were all gated behind a bloodgauge which not much a rotational thing but a resource management that was swaped from Darkside to the blood gauge but you need hours and hours of game time to understand that right.

[Jimsvaliant]

I didn't attack your "skills set" lol. I was merely pointing out the fact that most of your posts since you joined the forums are to whine. Jesus, get over yourself. I did address the loss of shadowskin and the DPS loss on reprisal is unfortunate but the other skills were just bloat. Reapplying a dot doesn't make you more skilled. I think you define yourself too heavily on a game with a low skill ceiling. It's time to grow up.

[Esp]

Hey to drk 70 before complaining that one alot of these "complainers" haven't even mastered the jobs it's absolutely pointless to complain with out mastering the job and take time with it building a rotation. I play drk and war and I don't complain about a job until I master them perfectly and then put suggestions just read one post of here Sayo f I haven't learned quitus but its a nerf. Master the jobs guys build your rotation and then speak a week later after!

In all honesty, I do appreciate you holding out until 70, which is what I have planned to do, but its not all that difficult to see deep flaws in the design as you begin to move up to 70.

Quietus in general. This skill really needs more to set it apart. TBN is a great ability to look forward to, but even before you hit 70, you can see that Quietus will almost never be used in favor of Bloodsplitter. If it was at least oGCD I could then acknowledge the ability to have use. As of right now, it's good to use post 68 once Delirium is on CD, but it'll never be something you DA.

Then there is Dark Passenger, something that was in HW. Nothing will change at all for this ability at 70. It has no uses whatsoever anymore, to the point I believe most DRKs, new and old, have just tossed it off their hotbars. It's almost double the MP of Abyssal Drain, has even less potency then Abyssal Drain, and it's blind effect is lackluster and can be resisted by bosses and certain trash pulls. Your much better placing that MP from DP into another DA...anything, and still be well off. The ability really needs it's MP either reduced, or removed completely for it to be even useable! Not effective, usable!

Speaking of Delirium, it's starting to grow on me, shame it's CD is so long. Reducing it a bit or raising the about of MP gained from Blood Weapon or Blood Price for their duration (depending on what's usable at the time) would make the skill very impressive in my opinion, and would slighty make up for the terrible return we are currently getting from Blood Price.

I'm level 66 atm, on my way to 70. There are still other problems coming along that you can see once you do hit 70 that TBN isn't gonna fix. I think that's the problem most people are having, and can see by attempting to "master" their rotation.

[Falar]

Hey to drk 70 before complaining that one alot of these "complainers" haven't even mastered the jobs it's absolutely pointless to complain with out mastering the job and take time with it building a rotation. I play drk and war and I don't complain about a job until I master them perfectly and then put suggestions just read one post of here Sayo f I haven't learned quitus but its a nerf. Master the jobs guys build your rotation and then speak a week later after!

Build your rotation?

They removed 1/2 of it and gave us 1 new skill to use in it.

[Jimsvaliant]

You didnt mention DA+DD, BB+CON, AB+DA+AD either and the tons of cross class skills and job skills we lost, and then you follow up and say "the game has a low skill ceiling".

I have addressed these but I can break it down further. These are ability bloats. They could have given dark dance a different effect but they decided to scrap parry and the skill along with it. I'm glad they did away with evasion. Relying on rng mitigation is doofy. BB/Con synergy was nice but in a raid setting Drk self sustain was largely insignificant. TBK is an amazing skill with a low cd. In my opinion it beats out any other mitigation ability. My guess behind their reasoning was to do away with big AoE pulls. No more facerolling dungeons with BB/AD pulls. Our single target is strong while AoE has taken a hit across the board - not just a Drk problem. I would love to see quietus get a 25 blood cost + ogcd.


I enjoy discussing class changes, presumable imbalances, and possible solutions but there was something about your tone that set me off. There's an elitist attitude that doesn't invite healthy discussion. I really shouldn't have taken your bait.

[Falar]

Why nerf huge dungeon pulls? That was the best thing about this class.

When played right, you could pull to any "gate" in a dungeon. The unbelievers were just bad.