How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Sparhwk]

Can't say anything about dragoon at level 70, but at level 60, the dps is considerably lower. I invite people to try out the a12s dummy and compare their times before 4.0.

You will not like the result.

Well no duh. We lost some skills, Gerk is on a long CD, our piercing debuff took a small nerf as did Blood for blood. There's been an across the board nerf to group buffs, selfbuffs and the role system change stole some goodies from everyone. Same thing happens in every mmorpg that has an expansion with a level cap, all classes become rebalanced for the new level cap.

Get to 70, get geared, learn new rotations. Things will be fine. We've seen initial data that shows DRG is in a good spot for overall dps. Nothing to be upset over.

[Lohen]

Well, I was hoping the potency buffs would make the dps decrease less considerable at level 60, despite the aforementioned nerfs.

But yeah, we'll have to see how the dps classes fare relative to each other at level 70.

[Shamox]

So, whevener you trigger Lotd, if you're under 15sc of Botd you'll get at least 15sc of Lotd.
And Mirage Dive + geiskogul double waves not so well.

This aside, DPS is still here and it's really fun to play.





Here's what you can at least pull on a dummy with the stuff below (i310wpn so 96wd) and your chocobo so you can use dragon sight.


Please note that the actual FFXIV ACT plugin is in beta.

[Khel]

Our AE feels much better.

[Tharne]

And Mirage Dive + geiskogul double waves not so well.

Yeah, I had a lot of problems with that. I don't really know why.

[Erys]

I have only been having trouble weaving geirskogul and mirage dive outside of instances and in instances when above 1000 skill speed. Else I have even been able to double weave blood for blood with a macro for dragon sight (because controller, hurr durr).
We are back to playing with gear to avoid skill speed like the plague or what?

PS: why don't we retain eyes stack when we lose BotD? Dungeon pulls and phase transitions are going to be our bore and our bane. I was expecting to be able tobuild up eyes during pulls to blow bosses and not being royally fucked in phase transitions. Even tho we can extend Botd up to 45s by refreshing it with the cd in the last second, it can only go that far.

[Khel]

I have only been having trouble weaving geirskogul and mirage dive outside of instances and in instances when above 1000 skill speed. Else I have even been able to double weave blood for blood with a macro for dragon sight (because controller, hurr durr).
We are back to playing with gear to avoid skill speed like the plague or what?

PS: why don't we retain eyes stack when we lose BotD? Dungeon pulls and phase transitions are going to be our bore and our bane. I was expecting to be able tobuild up eyes during pulls to blow bosses and not being royally fucked in phase transitions. Even tho we can extend Botd up to 45s by refreshing it with the cd in the last second, it can only go that far.

What macro are you using for dragon sight if I might ask?

[Erys]

What macro are you using for dragon sight if I might ask?

/action "Dragon Sight" <#>
In # you just write the party member number or name iirc. I have it by number and just drag people in my party list. It's the most miserable macro and high skill speed is its bane xP

[TheKingSlayer]

PS: why don't we retain eyes stack when we lose BotD? Dungeon pulls and phase transitions are going to be our bore and our bane. I was expecting to be able tobuild up eyes during pulls to blow bosses and not being royally fucked in phase transitions. Even tho we can extend Botd up to 45s by refreshing it with the cd in the last second, it can only go that far.

I've been getting used to the dungeon pulls and keeping my BotD up. The botd cooldown is now 30secs, so at the end of a pull I get my timer up as high as I can and let it tick down as we move to next set of mobs. Lets say for example, we get to next set of mobs I may only have 6 secs left, I apply HT and start a combo, then at 1-2 secs left I pop botd again and get back to 15 secs. Granted its not perfect but I have itup more often then I dont.

[Shamox]

Yeah, with the 30sc botd you get a lot of opportunity to get some extra sec by using it when botd timer is low. It was a bit harder at first, but once you have knowledge of the instance it's kinda easy, the only factor you can't really do anything about is the SLOW TANK that will put a pull timer on bosses...


As for Mirage dive & geirskogul double weaving, yeah it's probably easier with a lower GCD, this aside it's due to mirage dive having a pretty long animation, I'm pretty sure doing one of them first makes it faster but I don't remember which one.