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    Here are some words for ANYONE who seems to think we as customers should shut our mouths: YOU are the reason consumers have no voice, the minute a corporation breaks trust sycophants like you rush to defend them. You have literally stifled the voice of the consumer when you have vast swaths of players quick to tell anyone who complains about BAD SERVICE to shut up and and delete their game. YOU are the reason game companies think they can charge 60 dollars a game, you have lowered the expectations on average for the entire gaming base with this TIRING RHETORIC about how we should give these RICH & COMFORTABLE devs our patience when we, the PEOPLE WHO PAY THEIR SALARIES have the RIGHT TO DEMAND ABOVE PAR RESULTS. So take your "stop whining" bs and just admit that you are the slave to your corporate masters, you sure as hell try to silence our dissent enough to make them proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacDamodred View Post
    Here are some words for ANYONE who seems to think we as customers should shut our mouths: YOU are the reason consumers have no voice, the minute a corporation breaks trust sycophants like you rush to defend them. You have literally stifled the voice of the consumer when you have vast swaths of players quick to tell anyone who complains about BAD SERVICE to shut up and and delete their game. YOU are the reason game companies think they can charge 60 dollars a game, you have lowered the expectations on average for the entire gaming base with this TIRING RHETORIC about how we should give these RICH & COMFORTABLE devs our patience when we, the PEOPLE WHO PAY THEIR SALARIES have the RIGHT TO DEMAND ABOVE PAR RESULTS. So take your "stop whining" bs and just admit that you are the slave to your corporate masters, you sure as hell try to silence our dissent enough to make them proud.
    Couldn't have said it better myself - well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtavaddict View Post
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    Yeah, this is garbage mentality. The customer is, in fact, very rarely right, and it's a generation of "customer is always right" bull that has raised an extremely entitled group of 'let me speak to your manager to make up for my incompetence' human beings.

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    And you are literally the most wrong person who's ever been.

    You are under the delusion that you're allowed to have your voice, and the people that don't agree with you should be quiet. ( Hey, sounds pretty similar to what you're accusing other people of doing! ) You should shut your mouths because you are literally NOT HELPING.

    Here's the thing about these kinds of situations. The more time and effort a company has to spend dealing with the whining and the crying is more time and effort that can't be directed at the actual issue. Every time someone has to stop to give another pointless 'update' is time they're not working, when literally all the update will be is "Hey, we're still working!"

    No one at Square is sitting with their thumbs up their butts. I can guarantee you the buildings are just this side of burning down.

    Game companies CAN charge 60$ for a game. They can charge more! All you have to do is NOT BUY IT. Hit their bottom line. But whining isn't going to change their pricing points.

    You literally do NOT have the right to demand above par results. You can demand 'par' results, because, guess what, par is what you pay for. Every little extra thing they do where people like you never thank them? Consider this karmic balance. Instead of only hoping on the forums to cry, hop on here to congratulate them on a successful event ( you know, almost every other event they've run ). For going above and beyond.

    Things happen. Balls get dropped. Once the issue is resolved, I can 100% guarantee you that someone will lay out a genuine full answer as to what happened and why things went sideways. That's what a -good- company does.

    Be as dissonant as you want. You're doing it to feel better, and that's fine. But don't pretend you're doing some sort of ridiculous 'higher calling', or you're making ANY impact other than a negative one.

    What's happened isn't unacceptable. It's the reality. All that's left is for them to finish up their fix, let us know, and then you and every other 'dissenter' will be back sucking on your appropriate corporate teat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venjamin View Post
    Yeah, this is garbage mentality. The customer is, in fact, very rarely right, and it's a generation of "customer is always right" bull that has raised an extremely entitled group of 'let me speak to your manager to make up for my incompetence' human beings.



    And you are literally the most wrong person who's ever been.

    You are under the delusion that you're allowed to have your voice, and the people that don't agree with you should be quiet. ( Hey, sounds pretty similar to what you're accusing other people of doing! ) You should shut your mouths because you are literally NOT HELPING.

    Here's the thing about these kinds of situations. The more time and effort a company has to spend dealing with the whining and the crying is more time and effort that can't be directed at the actual issue. Every time someone has to stop to give another pointless 'update' is time they're not working, when literally all the update will be is "Hey, we're still working!"

    No one at Square is sitting with their thumbs up their butts. I can guarantee you the buildings are just this side of burning down.

    Game companies CAN charge 60$ for a game. They can charge more! All you have to do is NOT BUY IT. Hit their bottom line. But whining isn't going to change their pricing points.

    You literally do NOT have the right to demand above par results. You can demand 'par' results, because, guess what, par is what you pay for. Every little extra thing they do where people like you never thank them? Consider this karmic balance. Instead of only hoping on the forums to cry, hop on here to congratulate them on a successful event ( you know, almost every other event they've run ). For going above and beyond.

    Things happen. Balls get dropped. Once the issue is resolved, I can 100% guarantee you that someone will lay out a genuine full answer as to what happened and why things went sideways. That's what a -good- company does.

    Be as dissonant as you want. You're doing it to feel better, and that's fine. But don't pretend you're doing some sort of ridiculous 'higher calling', or you're making ANY impact other than a negative one.

    What's happened isn't unacceptable. It's the reality. All that's left is for them to finish up their fix, let us know, and then you and every other 'dissenter' will be back sucking on your appropriate corporate teat.
    You are the densest individual I have seen on this forum to date. I have all the right to speak out about a consumer product. I have the right to demand above par consumer goods, I have the right to demand that the people who I pay are held to standards. Just because this is a gaming company does not mean it should be held to different standards than any other industry.

    I never said gaming companies can't charge 60 dollars, I said that fools like you are the reason they get away with it. Fools like you defending mega corporations is the reason we don't get above par result. DO YOU REMEMBER 1.0? CRITICISM AND DISSENT WORKS FOOL.

    Here's what I don't get, you are trolling a tech forum, complaining about our complaints, what a loser.

    Your standards for the gaming community are not the same as others, just because you opinions clash with the majority of paying players does not make you right. I won't accept corporatist worship.

    Let's be clear, you are wrong, you are gravely wrong, "You literally do NOT have the right to demand above par results."

    WELL GUESS WHAT, I DEMAND ABOVE PAR RESULTS, LOOKS LIKE I CAN LITERALLY DEMAND IT. SEE? I DID IT AGAIN.

    So take your delusions that economics only works with one singular greedy mindset and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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    Must hate boycotts.
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    And lastly, this is a tech forum, I am allowed to have my voice, if someone wants to argue that my tech issue isn't an issue, that is their problem, not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacDamodred View Post
    You are the densest individual I have seen on this forum to date. I have all the right to speak out about a consumer product. I have the right to demand above par consumer goods, I have the right to demand that the people who I pay are held to standards. Just because this is a gaming company does not mean it should be held to different standards than any other industry.

    I never said gaming companies can't charge 60 dollars, I said that fools like you are the reason they get away with it. Fools like you defending mega corporations is the reason we don't get above par result. DO YOU REMEMBER 1.0? CRITICISM AND DISSENT WORKS FOOL.

    Here's what I don't get, you are trolling a tech forum, complaining about our complaints, what a loser.

    Your standards for the gaming community are not the same as others, just because you opinions clash with the majority of paying players does not make you right. I won't accept corporatist worship.

    Let's be clear, you are wrong, you are gravely wrong, "You literally do NOT have the right to demand above par results."

    WELL GUESS WHAT, I DEMAND ABOVE PAR RESULTS, LOOKS LIKE I CAN LITERALLY DEMAND IT. SEE? I DID IT AGAIN.

    So take your delusions that economics only works with one singular greedy mindset and stick it where the sun don't shine.
    Well said.
    Don't be surprised as this is typical from people like that, I don't know if that guy and the likes of him are trolling In the forum on purpose to attack angrey players and defend their masters, hate "ASSLICK" attitude.
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