Emergency Maintenance would solve nothing.

[Asphexius]

Early access is a bonus to all pre-ordered versions of the game, no matter the edition.

I don't get why people keep treating early access to the release version of the expansion the same as an open beta or a stress test weekend event. When you advertise things that come with a product you are beholden to deliver those; they aren't 'free bonuses'. A 'free bonus' would be if they did not advertise it as something that came with the game, but then they invited all pre-orders to it after the fact. If you ordered a TV off amazon advertised to come with a DVD player and an HDMI cable, you'd be OK if they just sent you the TV with a note apologizing due to poor planning, they couldn't deliver the other items and thanking you for your understanding? This isn't like a technical glitch, server instability etc. This is just bad design.

[savageink]

I don't get why people keep treating early access to the release version of the expansion the same as an open beta or a stress test weekend event.

It's been a couple weeks, but didn't we all have to click on a early access terms of service box when we signed up? But yeah we treat it like a stress test because the devs treat it like one. That's why they have an official launch day.

[Sayora]

I don't get why people keep treating early access to the release version of the expansion the same as an open beta or a stress test weekend event. When you advertise things that come with a product you are beholden to deliver those; they aren't 'free bonuses'. A 'free bonus' would be if they did not advertise it as something that came with the game, but then they invited all pre-orders to it after the fact. If you ordered a TV off amazon advertised to come with a DVD player and an HDMI cable, you'd be OK if they just sent you the TV with a note apologizing due to poor planning, they couldn't deliver the other items and thanking you for your understanding? This isn't like a technical glitch, server instability etc. This is just bad design.

What else would you really call it? The servers won't be under this amount of stress for years after this.

[Asphexius]

What else would you really call it? The servers won't be under this amount of stress for years after this.

Oh i don't disagree that this is what it has essentially turned out to be. I just disagree that this is what it should have been and subsequently disagree with White Knights (generically, not anyone specifically I've been speaking with directly here) saying that its OK to have a failed launch but use semantics to say 'Oh no, the launch isn't reallllly until the 20th' as if this wasn't the same product that they would have turned out on the 20th. A proper Beta/stress phase would have been weeks in advance anyways, not 4 days till launch.

[savageink]

Oh i don't disagree that this is what it has essentially turned out to be. I just disagree that this is what it should have been and subsequently disagree with White Knights saying that its OK to have a failed launch but use semantics to say 'Oh no, the launch isn't reallllly until the 20th' as if this wasn't the same product that they would have turned out on the 20th. A proper Beta/stress phase would have been weeks in advance anyways, not 4 days till launch.

LOL! I don't think I qualify as a white knight. I crank off half the people I talk to on this board. I've just done enough "launch days" to expect them to be like this.

[Asphexius]

LOL! I don't think I qualify as a white knight. I crank off half the people I talk to on this board. I've just done enough "launch days" to expect them to be like this.

I dunno if I read your post or not lol. I didn't name any names, more of a general thing as I've for sure seen some die hard fanboying here and in shout while trying to advance this borked MSQ. I'm also used to server stability/bugs/etc, but this is probably some of the worst dev. planning/short sighted issue I've seen to date out of a big dev like Square. Like everyone knows not to funnel everyone to the same hardpoint in expac #facepalm. Maybe "FF apolgist" would be the more apt expression :P.

[Sayora]

Oh i don't disagree that this is what it has essentially turned out to be. I just disagree that this is what it should have been and subsequently disagree with White Knights saying that its OK to have a failed launch but use semantics to say 'Oh no, the launch isn't reallllly until the 20th' as if this wasn't the same product that they would have turned out on the 20th. A proper Beta/stress phase would have been weeks in advance anyways, not 4 days till launch.

Oh, fair enough. I am indeed curious though if we'll see a surge on the 20th.