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  1. #171
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    The nerf is Official now guys (At least from this data mining): https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_mined_notes/
    But let's wait for final patch notes, hopefully I'm wrong ...

    Basically nothing changes from april nerf build
    Souleater now only leeches 10% HP from total damage, what? it was just a typo, feels good.
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 06-16-2017 at 06:55 PM.

  2. #172
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    Kaedan's Avatar
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    The nerf is Official now guys (At least from this data mining): https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_mined_notes/
    But let's wait for final patch notes, hopefully I'm wrong ...

    Basically nothing changes from april nerf build
    Souleater now only leeches 10% HP from total damage, what?
    (Not sure if it was just a typo)
    Well, official patch notes say "A portion of" for both Souleater AND Abyssal, meaning the data mined % is likely correct.

    So yeah, this wasn't just a little nerf. This was a hardcore stomp you in the ground nerf for DRK.
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  3. #173
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    Falar's Avatar
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    WOW, the 1 thing would have been ok about being stuck in grit. So much for massive pulls in dungeons.

    So, we lost:

    Scourge
    Reprisal (new shared one sucks)
    Low Blow (new shared one sucks)
    Dark Dance (new shared one sucks---no DA enhancement)
    DP nerfed hard
    DA-DD combo for evade
    DA-AD combo for sustain in huge pulls
    The one piece of ok stustain we had in ST mode---Grit plus souleater

    And gained nothing worthwhile ebcause we also took a huge DPS nerf. THis sucks.
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  4. #174
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    Tested it on a dummy. So far HP restoration on Souleater and Abyssal Drain is 100% of damage dealt.
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  5. #175
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I'm getting 88mp from blood price, it's 5% of the DA mp. Was it that low before? I don't remember.
    Blood weapon is giving 353 mp, it's 20% of the DA mp.
    Syphom Strike gives 884 mp, it's 50% of DA mp. In grit it gives 1768 mp, it's 100% DA mp.

    Now that we can DA SS maybe we can see some combos while in grit:
    HS>SS = 200p/GCD = 50% of DA mp/GCD which is 70p = 200p+70p = 270p/GCD
    HS>DASS = 270 p/GCD = 50% of DA mp/GCD which is 70p = 270p+70p = 340p/GCD

    HS>SS>SE = 226,66p/GCD = 33,33% of DA mp/GCD which is 46,67p =226,66p+46,67p = 273,33p/GCD
    HS>DASS>SE or HS>SS>DASE = 273,33 p/GCD = 33,33% of DA mp/GCD which is 46,67p =273,33p+46,67p = 320p/GCD
    HS>DASS>DASE = 320 p/GCD = 33,33% of DA mp/GCD which is 46,67p = 320p+46,67p = 366,67p/GCD

    So the best GCD combo for specific situations while in grit:
    Burst = HS>DASS>DASE = 366,67p/GCD
    Normal rotation with 1 DA = HS>DASS = 340p/GCD
    Normal rotation without any DA = HS>SS>SE = 273,66/GCD
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 06-16-2017 at 09:27 PM.

  6. #176
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    Crater's Avatar
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I'm getting 88mp from blood price, it's 5% of the DA mp. Was it that low before? I don't remember.
    No, Blood Price should be restoring 353 MP at level 60.

    I hope that one's just a bug. A 75% nerf to Blood Price is completely unwarranted and basically makes it weak enough that you can just take it off your hotbar and not really notice the difference. The patch notes/job guide don't say the MP recovery has been adjusted at all.
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  7. #177
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    Damien Belmont
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    No, Blood Price should be restoring 353 MP at level 60.

    I hope that one's just a bug. A 75% nerf to Blood Price is completely unwarranted and basically makes it weak enough that you can just take it off your hotbar and not really notice the difference. The patch notes/job guide don't say the MP recovery has been adjusted at all.
    Hopefully a scaling bug and the 70lvl version feels okay.
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  8. #178
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Can confirm that blood price is only giving back 88mp.

    Also, Dark Passenger costs WAY too much for a 100 potency attack, it's cost needs to be reduced considerably.
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  9. #179
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Yeah, from 7 oGCDs to 4, but really 3 - since Dark Passenger should not be used to on single target anymore unless you're at risk of topping off MP - feelsbad. Hate leaving DP sitting. Goes against 2 years of habit.

    Even after they fix Blood Price's MP restore, they still should to buff the cooldown in additional ways. The added MP restore of Syphon starts to take away the edge of Bloodspiller. Additional improvements to Tank-stance MP restore needs to come from Price, not the rotation.

    Almost 62, want to see how Price builds gauge natively, since it says 1 blood natively and 4 over time.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 06-16-2017 at 10:38 PM.

  10. #180
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    i still don't know if Blood price is intentional atm. mp recovery is so low right now...
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