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  1. #11
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    You know I was still holding out hope of some sort of replacements for everything we lost but this puts the nail in that coffin. We have 4 less skills than both of the other classes and we have huge gaps in our spell lists where we lost things to role skills that aren't being replaced. It's also pretty insulting to do something like just move Cure III in for our level 40 quest.
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  2. #12
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SCH and AST still look way better. Unless the upcoming content is super healing intense WHM won't be good until 4.1 or 4.2
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  3. #13
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    SCH and AST still look way better. Unless the upcoming content is super healing intense WHM won't be good until 4.1 or 4.2
    SCH lost aoe damage, AST only
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  4. #14
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    SCH and AST still look way better. Unless the upcoming content is super healing intense WHM won't be good until 4.1 or 4.2
    For intense healing content you'd want AST over WHM. WHM would be more for personal DPS. But... most people will probably want Balance instead of a healer with high personal DPS.
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  5. #15
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    Belhi's Avatar
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    SCH took a hit but I still think it will be more useful paired with AST than WHM will. SCH crits will still make their shields superior if they stack crit and they have very good mitigation. AST is just hands down better than WHM. WHM might be able to have a small edge in healing but not enough to matter and most of its healing boosts are too unreliable to count on. Confession mechanic is still rubbish.
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  6. #16
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    WHM might be able to have a small edge in healing but not enough to matter and most of its healing boosts are too unreliable to count on..
    I'm not really sure what's so hard to read about the tooltips.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/astrologian/

    White mage simply does not have the stronger healing (although, since they noted MP costs when changed, it's safe to say WHM heals are still more expensive).
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  7. #17
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazuki87 View Post
    I see a lot different, much more power behind the "pure" heals and less DPS. M very happy for the new WHM, been waiting 5 years for SE to make WHM more pure healer and less DPS. I love solo healing over also having to DPS in raid, so we can have 5 DPS, this will make my job that much more easyer ^^
    AST:

    Benefic potency = 400
    With Diurnal Sect = 400 X 110% = 440
    With Nocturnal Sect = 400 X 115% = 460

    Benefic II potency = 650
    With Diurnal Sect = 650 X 110% = 715
    WIth Nocturnal Sect = 650 X 115% = 747.5


    WHM:

    Cure Potency = 450
    Cure II Potency = 700

    Yay! I love my new Pure Healer WHM!
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  8. #18
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretCrowds View Post
    AST:

    Benefic potency = 400
    With Diurnal Sect = 400 X 110% = 440
    With Nocturnal Sect = 400 X 115% = 460

    Benefic II potency = 650
    With Diurnal Sect = 650 X 110% = 715
    WIth Nocturnal Sect = 650 X 115% = 747.5


    WHM:

    Cure Potency = 450
    Cure II Potency = 700

    Yay! I love my new Pure Healer WHM!
    And sect bonuses affect all spells, not just benefic/benefic2
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  9. #19
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    Yuumei's Avatar
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    Nutella Chocolate
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    TBH, deep down we knew nothing substantial will be changed this close to release and SE does not disappoint.

    I especially like how WHM gets Stone II at lvl 18 (200 Potency) and gets a negligible / pitiful 10 potency upgrade at lvl 54 with Stone III (210 potency).
    That's how much thought the development team puts into designing White Mage job for Stormblood. Such a shame.
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  10. #20
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I'm not really sure what's so hard to read about the tooltips.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/astrologian/

    White mage simply does not have the stronger healing (although, since they noted MP costs when changed, it's safe to say WHM heals are still more expensive).
    I say small taking into account the WHM's healing cd set. Asylum, Cure III and presence of mind can allow a WHM to push out a lot of sustained burst healing. That said the AST is no push over there but I think WHM has a slight advantage due to Presence of Mind. That just lets you pump out spells more quickly.

    Don't get me wrong. I don't think it makes up for the WHM's shortfalls at all. Its really only a minor difference. The only thing WHM really has over the other two healers is personal dps and frankly I don't think its enough to make up the difference.
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