Who is jumping ship once they start charging in November?

[irongripz]

No, thats not true at all. You seem to have trouble grasping the issue myself and others have.

If you dislike the game enough to pay for it. Then by all means do not pay for it. What we have an issue with, is the fact that so many on here are posting 5 paragraph post, post in which all they are doing is attempting to convince us we are wrong to be willing to pay for our game. I mean look at you for example. You call everyone an idiot for disagreeing with you. No one said they don't matter. I know what I personally said, was the FACT that the first 8 out of 10 on one site and 7 out of ten on the other are not even current players. Thats the first 10 posters on poll threads. those numbers a FACTS, check em yourself.

You as an individual are a troll. You stand here and call every one an idiot because we said posters on some other sites are trolling and bashing a game that 70% of them are not currently playing or haven't even played recently. Thats not up for debate, thats numerical fact. So yes those polls are bias by trolls.

so we as a disgruntles, dissatisfied costumer. are not aloud to vent out dissatisfaction with this game with out being mocked and flamed by you... you in particular debating our opinion is proof enough that you are a troll.

what is your justification for continually coming back to argue? we want a place to vent and these forums are a place where we supposed to be able to. the who is jumping ship thread looks like perfect place for me to vent my dissatisfaction in the game and why its not worth paying for. what are you debating? my opinion? the ops opinion? seriously and i get accused of trolling. how bout you guys turn more opinions into debates we are not aloud to speak on with out

indisputably doing harm to SE, by doing so.

because we said posters on some other sites are trolling and bashing a game that 70% of them are not currently playing or haen't even played recently. Thats not up for debate, thats numerical fact. So yes those polls are bias by trolls.

would like to see the numerical stat showing how many people specifically canceled their sub after SE begged everyone to give them time to fix the game. show me your source before call it a fact. everyone that bought the game has been able to play for free why cancel when SE promises to fix the game..... some of use are still waiting and would like to vent our dissatisfaction...

so i ask again why are you still coming back i forgot? you a disgruntled happy player that cant seem to stop trolling, and mocking, other peoples state of dissatisfaction?

show me where i have tried to convince anyone to leave. i have a right to complain you don't have to like it.

[Kafeen]

so we as a disgruntles, dissatisfied costumer. are not aloud to vent out dissatisfaction with this game with out being mocked and flamed by you... you in particular debating our opinion is proof enough that you are a troll.

I find it quite interesting how Final Fantasy can have such an emotional grip on someone that it provokes this kind of behavior. So many people have bought the game, don't enjoy it but spend the next year continuing to play it, demanding that it it changed to meet their expectations, to become the game they want it to be.

This doesn't seem to happen else where. If you buy a drink but it doesn't taste as good as you expected, how many people would continue to drink it for the next year, contacting the manufacturers demanding that the flavour be improved to something more suiting their taste!? I'm sure most rational people would simply put it down to a bad choice of purchase then not buy it any more.

[Zanfire]

I find it quite interesting how Final Fantasy can have such an emotional grip on someone that it provokes this kind of behavior. So many people have bought the game, don't enjoy it but spend the next year continuing to play it, demanding that it it changed to meet their expectations, to become the game they want it to be.

This doesn't seem to happen else where. If you buy a drink but it doesn't taste as good as you expected, how many people would continue to drink it for the next year, contacting the manufacturers demanding that the flavour be improved to something more suiting their taste!? I'm sure most rational people would simply put it down to a bad choice of purchase then not buy it any more.

Except this is SE and they not only fired people, but flat out apologized for how bad it was and said they would fix it. Other MMOs dont do this because they can just go F2P and let it die out, SE doesnt want all that effort to go to waste by letting have almost noone play or shut it down, so they made it their mission to fix the game so people would actually play it. To most people that "fixed" state will be when 2.0 hits, it relieves so many problems with the game, especially the server and coding issues and the other huge complaints like the lackluster UI and dll copy paste world. It also lets them do so much more and has the game work on many more PCs, which means more customers.

You seem to be on the same mind-set as a few posters on these forums who defend SE's choices blindly and only see black and white. You say if you dont love it, GTFO. In reality there are a ton of people who like the game a little bit and see its potential, but don't think its worth paying for in its current state (pretty much pre-2.0 and with how little content there really is right now)

Of course there is no changing your few minds, so you will argue that same "love it or leave it" statement until the end of time.

[irongripz]

Except this is SE and they not only fired people, but flat out apologized for how bad it was and said they would fix it. Other MMOs dont do this because they can just go F2P and let it die out, SE doesnt want all that effort to go to waste by letting have almost noone play or shut it down, so they made it their mission to fix the game so people would actually play it. To most people that "fixed" state will be when 2.0 hits, it relieves so many problems with the game, especially the server and coding issues and the other huge complaints like the lackluster UI and dll copy paste world. It also lets them do so much more and has the game work on many more PCs, which means more customers.

You seem to be on the same mind-set as a few posters on these forums who defend SE's choices blindly and only see black and white. You say if you dont love it, GTFO. In reality there are a ton of people who like the game a little bit and see its potential, but don't think its worth paying for in its current state (pretty much pre-2.0 and with how little content there really is right now)

Of course there is no changing your few minds, so you will argue that same "love it or leave it" statement until the end of time.

so how many time you been banned for telling these trolls what they NEED to hear but cant because the moderators on this site wont let you?

game is still half done people that pay for half of what they should get are just... Inflammatory comments'

guess i am a glass is half empty kind of person they are all glass half full. but when it comes down to it least i see we only have half

[Jennestia]

Except this is SE and they not only fired people

Who was fired again? Aside people who've left the company over the years, I've yet to see them actually fire someone.

and yet this again. same crap same people. your the minority the majority is on un moderated sites telling you why this game is not ready.. i could link sites but you know.

they just get deleted because they are all bad and its indisputable harm to SE.

You keep saying it "harms SE" "harms SE" "harms SE"..what harm is being done? The only opinions that get deleted are trolling and inflammatory comments, aka attacking other players for being positive.

[TheVedis]

You keep saying it "harms SE" "harms SE" "harms SE"..what harm is being done? The only opinions that get deleted are trolling and inflammatory comments, aka attacking other players for being positive.

supposedely its a comspiracy and the front page is supposed to be filled with quitting threads
and if it isnt, then SE is censoring everyone and hiding the truth

even though we can see every deleted thread cuz it has a nice big red - next to it when they close and lock and delete it so we can see what they stopped

[yukikaze_yanagi]

supposedely its a comspiracy and the front page is supposed to be filled with quitting threads
and if it isnt, then SE is censoring everyone and hiding the truth

even though we can see every deleted thread cuz it has a nice big red - next to it when they close and lock and delete it so we can see what they stopped

You should better believe in chemtrails

[irongripz]

because this debate turns into a who supports SE debate. we can not debate that with out indisputable harm to SE, because it seems as if we are trying to convince people to do otherwise. when in fact we are not again, I am just stating my disappointment and dissatisfaction at the game in the state it is in. then you trolls debate my opinions until the point i am not allowed to debate it on these forums. so again

one sided debate this thread should have been closed 20 pages ago.

[Preypacer]

because this debate turns into a who supports SE debate. we can not debate that with out indisputable harm to SE, because it seems as if we are trying to convince people to do otherwise. when in fact we are not again, I am just stating my disappointment and dissatisfaction at the game in the state it is in. then you trolls debate my opinions until the point i am not allowed to debate it on these forums. so again

one sided debate this thread should have been closed 20 pages ago.

Because a picture is worth a thousand words, and because words and attempts at actually reasoning are lost on him...

Here's gripz previous post in a picture:

[irongripz]

Because a picture is worth a thousand words, and because words and attempts at actually reasoning are lost on him...

Here's gripz previous post in a picture:

aww hes so cute. thats about what most people look like after playing this game.