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  1. #551
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    So if understand this right
    You get achievement, get an armor set, glam it, toss it out
    Then you get a new gear you have to spend time to go get the gear again and tossing everything?
    I do not think so, Just get rid of inventory management from retainers and make a new system that can be expanded on if it is true they are limited to 175 items. If retainer limits are the problem then put inventory management on something else, like a bank chest, this shouldn't be hard.

    It is not "something" it is them trying to give a bare minimum and hoping people be happy with it.
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  2. #552
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    Just implement the damn glamour log already SE. Been over 3 years we've been using this wonky pain in the ass system.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 06-16-2017 at 02:30 AM.

  3. #553
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    I wouldn't be terribly opposed to glamour log being linked to achievements.

    For example "Take to Jonathas/Redolent Rose/Yellow Moon with X gear set equipped (including accessories)," get that achievement, and unlock that page in the glamour log. I'm pretty sure there are a couple achievements like that already, for GC sets. Also, I believe this would be similar, if not exact, to how items become available with the Calamity Salvager.
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  4. #554
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    I wouldn't be terribly opposed to glamour log being linked to achievements.

    For example "Take to Jonathas/Redolent Rose/Yellow Moon with X gear set equipped (including accessories)," get that achievement, and unlock that page in the glamour log. I'm pretty sure there are a couple achievements like that already, for GC sets. Also, I believe this would be similar, if not exact, to how items become available with the Calamity Salvager.
    Yeah but we are talking about a truckload of gear. It would require lots and lots of achievements. Unless you make insane achievements like Do T9 Savage naked with an undersized synched party which rewards you: All the glamour available for X job.
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  5. #555
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Just implement the damn glamour log already SE. Been over 3 years we've been using this wonky pain in the ass system.
    Hes already explained why they can't.
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  6. #556
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund View Post
    Hes already explained why they can't.
    We have yet to recieve a precise and technical explanation to why. So far the arguments we have gotten can prety much be countered by the simple fact that they are extending systems that are a lot more taxing than a wardrobe/outfit log. The 40 new inventory slots and plenthora of armory slots? They could have tied over a thousand unique skins to the same storage location in the form of a wardrobe, that would also have been way less taxing on the system than what they just did...
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  7. #557
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund View Post
    Hes already explained why they can't.
    All they've explained is that they don't understand what a glamour log actually is.
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  8. #558
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Yeah but we are talking about a truckload of gear.
    Well they don't need to implement this for all the gear, at least not all at once. I would say they should prioritize their focus on "market prohibited sets" (especially for obsolete lower ilvl 50/60 gear), and the more premium of the premium glamour sets (the stuff that initially costs millions). They could also save time by limited certain sets to their augmented/upgraded counterparts (augmented 2.0 AF, for example).

    I'm also not opposed to them unlocking sets of sets with a single achievement ("insane" or otherwise). For example, "Talk to NPC with X gear set equipped, from Y dungeon" unlock all glamour pages for gearsets from that dungeon. If it saves them memory and server strain, and saves me from spending too much time wrestling with the rng, I wouldn't complain.
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  9. #559
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    Well they don't need to implement this for all the gear, at least not all at once.
    No, we don't need a half-assed glamour storage system. It absolutely must be designed from the ground up to include everything. If it's not, we will run into SE dragging their heels at every opportunity to expand it for this or that gear piece.
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  10. #560
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    No, we don't need a half-assed glamour storage system. It absolutely must be designed from the ground up to include everything. If it's not, we will run into SE dragging their heels at every opportunity to expand it for this or that gear piece.
    This, look what they have to deal with doing that, 2.0 problems being fixed in 4.0 because that approach.

    Them not understanding what me mean by a glamor log would make sense, now that I think about it.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 06-16-2017 at 05:27 AM.

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