"Firecrest and glass pumpkin are now available for purchase"

[Gumbercules]

honestly i thought they were like items to help in potd lol, I am inclined to agree these shoulda stayed "exclusive" to floor 200 clears, and thats coming from someone thats never been past 100 XD

[UnstablePersonality]

I still actually hope it's just a trade between the two items, I'd still like to go back and actually clear floor 200 and get the item.

[Aramina]

We are different people, so I can appreciate your views on it. ^^ Perhaps one day I can adapt that way of thinking; might be easier on me lol. For now, it's still just "I wish others would just put forth some effort if they really want X item, rather than just expect to get it for nothing."

I can certainly respect that view, and I don't disagree, I just think in different ways sometimes, lol. I, personally, would rather not have something at all then to have it made easier because I take that as "You aren't good enough to actually do this so I am going to dumb it down for ya." Of course, logically, I know that's not what they are doing when things are made easier.. it is just a personal weirdness. :P

[Zojha]

My issues lie with people wanting rewards without putting forth the effort to obtain them.

Then I suggest you first go and complain about the concept of inheritance, because as it stands, children all around the globe obtain the heritage of their parents without ever putting in any effort for it. They frequently are even entitled to it, if the parents didn't openly deny it to them.

Do you really think someone like Bush could ever have become president if his efforts and merit had decided? Hah!

[Miste]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

Erm most MMO's have rewards for effort no matter if you enjoyed or didn't enjoy the content the natural state is to be rewarded for time/effort spent.

You spend time getting exp, you get rewarded with level ups and new abilities. You spend time getting tomes/tokens and you get gear/weapons as a reward. You spend time doing primal fights and you get weapons/tokens/mounts. You spend time doing savage raids you get the best item level gear for that patch cycle.

The whole FFXIV system is reward based so this is kinda....I mean external rewards are the normal baseline. I can't even think of a piece of content in FFXIV where it isn't "you do this, you get this"...Can you?

Everyone has different priorities and enjoy different aspects...you just need to think outside of your own personal views...

Person A likes the journey and doesn't care about rewards.
Person B likes both the journey and the rewards.
Person C likes the reward only so they do the journey, but it was mostly only for the reward and either disliked the journey or was neutral about the journey to get there.

You might think person C is silly or shouldn't do that, but that is what person C likes...so telling people to "just don't do it" is just such a waste of time. If they really liked and wanted the reward and that journey was the only way to get it...and they are willing to accept that and do it then they made that choice.

There are many different kinds of content in FFXIV which means some content you might end up doing just for the reward because you need or want it, while there is also plenty of other content you enjoy the journey and reward.

I personally don't like crafting very much, but I do it...because I appreciate the efficiency of having crafters readily available if I need them. So I want that aspect so I do it even though I don't care much for it.



As for this topic...I feel it is too soon to worry about this. The patch notes were vague and if I had to make an educated guess I am thinking you probably need to have cleared floor 200 at least once in order to purchase these items off the NPC...similar to some of the other items.

[KiraCifer]

SE most likely doing this cause want to or to many complaining about only getting them in 200 all cause their PF groups people make get flakes who don't show when agreed time comes or make excuse after excuse why not to.

So go message SE and tell them leave this as a only can get clear 200 and from now on anyone who join a group and get to 101+ and then the group disbanded all cause this person didn't want to go on or didn't show then lock said person out of potd 101+ for the next month or 2 and bet everyone will finish a group when they join it

[Tint]

i cleared floor 200 just one week ago and i was SO proud of my Glass Pumpkin Earring, more proud than showing of raid gear.

i am sad now D:

[Jandor]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

I enjoyed doing it (twice) and I enjoy the items I got for doing it. I can enjoy more than one thing for more than one reason.

I feel like I've fallen for bait...

[RLofOBFL]

What I get from this is: "Oh no casuals are finally experiencing what raiders have been going through since 2.0!!"

[Nihility]

It's entirely possible that they will be like the music and require 200 to be cleared before becoming available for purchase just as a way to get more pillars for decorating or something