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  1. #31
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    Yes, we will have even a more divided community. Good work. You will be responsible to have even less clear rate. You will be responsible of some people not be able to down a duty despite being capable of it because you didn't let him even try and he has bad luck finding party. Good work on consolidate player base Square Enix. Now you will divide them even more.

    Well, I will have some decency and I won't enable this option and let at least people try the duty before judge them.

    I guess they will remove it when they realized how low number of clear will have because only the first ones will clear it and refuse helps others.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 06-16-2017 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post

    Well, I will have some decency and I won't enable this option and let at least people try the duty before judge them.
    Look at Mother Teresa here! By the sounds of things, you'll be setting up a learning party. Thank God you have decency.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Yes because anyone who hasn't completed a duty yet is obviously a troll. GG OP you made me laugh.

    Did you even read my OP or understand what I was saying? If someone has a bonus and joins a PF that specifically says "No bonus" then yes, they are a troll. Some might have been missclicks on the wrong PF but this new option only helps prevent those awkward and embarrassing situations as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Yes, we will have even a more divided community. Good work. You will be responsible to have even less clear rate. You will be responsible of some people not be able to down a duty despite being capable of it because you didn't let him even try and he has bad luck finding party. Good work on consolidate player base Square Enix. Now you will divide them even more.

    Well, I will have some decency and I won't enable this option and let at least people try the duty before judge them.

    I guess they will remove it when they realized how low number of clear will have because only the first ones will clear it and refuse helps others.

    No, people who use this feature will NOT be responsible for low clear rates or people not being able to down a duty. Dividing the community according to what they are trying to accomplish will only HELP clear rates. This option WILL help clear rates and farm success.

    The proof is Sophia Ex Raid Finder. It was difficult to get a clear sometimes but after you were able to set it for Duty Complete you almost always got in with people who knew what they were doing so it could basically be used to farm. Granted you still had bad parties and I'm not saying this will make all the problems go away but it's a step in the right direction.

    The amount of self entitled delusion seeping from your post is worrying. This filter option is not, and should not be implemented for the Duty Finder. But it absolutely should be an option for the Party Finder who's main selling point is to create groups that meet the criteria you set for them. Whether this be meeting a certain item level, being a certain job, or having a clear. People are still free to make learning parties all they want and I'm sure they will. But for anyone to call others selfish for wanting to set these criteria for THEIR OWN party Finder groups only makes the person calling them selfish look like a self entitled spoiled brat.
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    Last edited by DaikiKiyoshi; 06-16-2017 at 03:57 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Look at Mother Teresa here! By the sounds of things, you'll be setting up a learning party. Thank God you have decency.
    Please, can you put the phrase were I insult you to see why are you insulting me now?

    And just for information. When I tried to get a friend though the old ARR primals synced because he want enjoy the full experience. We get 4 people and search for other 4 on PF, for 2 hours, no one even care because was synced and with a new player. I prefer have more ideas to encourage people to clear things together and help newies (because the mentor system has been a fail) rather than jut divide player base.
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  5. #35
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    and yet they have no way of blocking not knowing the fight for those that got carried. I think that is a bigger issue then "no bonus" but the only time I ran into that is on my alt that gave bonus but I knew the fights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Please, can you put the phrase were I insult you to see why are you insulting me now?
    When you virtue signal with your "decency" you are implying other people who have different goals as you are indecent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Please, can you put the phrase were I insult you to see why are you insulting me now?
    I would love to!
    I will have some decency and I won't enable this option
    -Implying that those who wish to have clear groups when they have the clear are indecent people. Hence the jab at you being holier than thou.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    I would love to!
    I will have some decency and I won't enable this option
    -Implying that those who wish to have clear groups when they have the clear are indecent people. Hence the jab at you being holier than thou.
    That was not my intention, I apologies. I just put my way to think. Everyone can do whatever they want as they did before with the "no bonus" descriptions in the party. My point is always the same as before, not lock people out of content, always he is of course, being serious with down and no just looking for a carry or trolling, a thing that, in this case, yes, I find disrespectful. But I don't see disrespectful the action to join the party with out a down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Yes, we will have even a more divided community. Good work. You will be responsible to have even less clear rate. You will be responsible of some people not be able to down a duty despite being capable of it because you didn't let him even try and he has bad luck finding party. Good work on consolidate player base Square Enix. Now you will divide them even more.
    The solution to this is simple, and has been stated so many times before: make your own learning or clear party.

    Well, I will have some decency and I won't enable this option and let at least people try the duty before judge them.
    That is perfectly okay. But don't judge those whose goal is to farm content bar entry for those who do not even have a clear for said content.

    I guess they will remove it when they realized how low number of clear will have because only the first ones will clear it and refuse helps others.
    This is just blatantly false. Not everyone clears content on Day 1. People were still making learning groups for Creator Savage and Zurvan Ex up to when servers went down early this morning. People still join learning groups, and not all of them are people who haven't cleared the fight. A lot of people with fights on farm join learning groups just to help out.

    The reason for clear rates between Japanese communities and other communities has nothing to do with these people who you think bar newbies from every single piece of content. I honestly think the clear rates have more to do with the way Japanese players handle wipes (i.e., no finger-pointing and blame-shifting), and how they work together to get clears, rather than start arguing about who caused the last wipe.
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  10. #40
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    Great now you incompetent people who think clearing by some grace of god after dying 5 times people will keep sneaking into my parties and nothing will have changed because people joining with bonuses are hardly an issue. sure there are some that come looking for the carry then find out that's not possible. Most bonus people i get in my pfs tend to be competent more so then the "farmers". so in short nothing will change but making your pfs take longer to fill. Yay i guess?
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    Last edited by thegreatonemal; 06-16-2017 at 06:16 AM.

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