Will Healers Still be Forced to DPS in 4.0 Due to Lax Content?

[Erudito]

Forced? The game does not "force" you to DPS. Your fellow players "expect" you to DPS if you are not a newbie or are super nervous case. I have seen a few super nervous healers that don't DPS out of plain fear of letting somebody die. It happens.

Any and all iterations of "I do what I want, you don't pay my sub" are rendered invalid when other real life people are doing content in the same party as you. If you were to pull this crud with me or the members of my FC, you will be asked to DPS on downtime. If you retort with the usual selfish garbo, you might get kicked. Consider your fellow player, we all stand equal to the games shenanigans and if a great deal of us can throw in some damage while healing, so can you.

Any iteration of "I am a healer, so I only heal" is self restricting, cowardly and weak as the people who MADE THE GAME would want you to make use of all the abilities in your disposal for a grand, fun time. If you do not use them all, you are cutting off bits of yourself. If you think that a mere role warrants ignoring the DPS abilities consider using a different job, one which you are actually willing to use all the abilities at its disposal.

[Cynfael]

No us healers aren't. Yoshida already expressed and said to Mr Happy1227 "stress this to your viewers. I do NOT expect healers to dps"..

With due respect to Yoshi-P, his opinion on the topic is A) politically correct and B) irrelevant to gameplay.

He is going to support the position that promotes the least division in the player base, which in this case happens to be "do what you want."

[Fyce]

No us healers aren't. Yoshida already expressed and said to Mr Happy1227 "stress this to your viewers. I do NOT expect healers to dps"..

And in another interview, he said that they were making it easier to DPS in Stormblood and that people should give it a try.

So stop twisting his words to fit for your lazyness. "Healers aren't expected to DPS" means that the content should be doable without healer DPS. That's all. It's not a free pass at being a terrible person for leeching on the efforts of your teammates.

Jeez people, stop trying to find excuses.

[odintius]

I dps so not really issue for me I took it as when doing Savage it helps meet dps checks easier and if you dps in casual content also all it does it save a few minutes in the dungeon and if it doesn't you have another issue..

[KDSilver]

Let's say, a healer don't want to do dps.

From that point, I acknowlege the fact that you don't want to spend your GCD to do it. Okay, so be it.
I however will never forgive one thing for scholars.

Shadow Flare.
It's a oGCD at free cost and instant use.
Not using it at all wouldn't be a question of playstyle anymore. It would just be totally be a ridicilous choice.

You can even make a macro : /ac Shadow Flare <t> so that it immediatly goes on the target. One pressure on this, and it's done.
Even if you don't want to dps, you have no reason to not use that skill.

It would be like Assize and Earthly star that would do damage even if you don't want to since now damges scale on mind.

[KDSilver]

No us healers aren't. Yoshida already expressed and said to Mr Happy1227 "stress this to your viewers. I do NOT expect healers to dps"..

Quote the full answer please. Cause I hate when people only take the part that goes in their way by ignoring the rest.
Yoshida did said that indeed, but he never ever said "don't dare touching any dps skill".

=)

[Sebazy]

Only way that's happening is by nerfing the hell out of the heal potencies.

Oh it's dooable, just they would need to gut the job's personal DPS rather than it's heal potencies. AST would have been perfect for this if they had have had the guts to make it to spend GCDs optimising it's card throughput instead of throwing dots/nukes.

The tricky part is of course keeping it's damage enough to be viable whilst solo, but without being overwhelming in 8 man. I made a lengthy breakdown discussing how this could be achieved a year or so ago if you feel like searching.

[xNewbx]

Quote the full answer please. Cause I hate when people only take the part that goes in their way by ignoring the rest.
Yoshida did said that indeed, but he never ever said "don't dare touching any dps skill".

=)

Uh what are you talking about. Of course he didn't say that. He didn't say a lot of things. He didn't say that the sky is blue, or he prefers pizza over chicken.

The exact quote Mr Happy got was "That being said, and I want to really enforce this to your viewers, I firmly believe it shouldn't be mandatory and we do NOT have the expectation of them to DPS."

So yeah, you're right, he didn't say "don't dare touching any dps skill."

But what he quoted was more than enough of the answer to get the whole point across. He didn't bend the quote around to make it work out for him at all. I hate it too when people do that, but that isn't the case here, sorry.

[Marcu18]

Thanks xNewbx.

[Riyshn]

I will point out that he started publicly saying this shortly before patch 3.05 (...3.07?). That would be the patch that gave us A4S. ...which was actually impossible at available gear level without healer DPS. As in, 4 DPS + 2 tanks holding aggro could not physically put out enough damage to kill it before the enrage. What Yoshi-P says and what the balance team actually does don't seem to be all that related.