Thoughts on primals 2.0

[Syrous]

I love most of Yoshi P's ideas, but I don't think this is a very good one... I dunno, maybe it just needs to be worked on a bit but I can spot many flaws in its current state. For one this means there will be no Summoner job. Also this will cause major ballance issues. If the Primals are too strong they will be a requirement when harder fights are implemented. If they're too weak then they'll be useless and noone'll want to use them after the first few weeks.

I don't know... it just doesn't seem to fit with either the FF theme or be practical from an MMO standpoint.

[northernsky]

I love most of Yoshi P's ideas, but I don't think this is a very good one... I dunno, maybe it just needs to be worked on a bit but I can spot many flaws in its current state. For one this means there will be no Summoner job. Also this will cause major ballance issues. If the Primals are too strong they will be a requirement when harder fights are implemented. If they're too weak then they'll be useless and noone'll want to use them after the first few weeks.

I don't know... it just doesn't seem to fit with either the FF theme or be practical from an MMO standpoint.

Wait, what current state? We just read a few tidbits of content under development that will maybe be out in over 1 year. You really think that the dev team don't have your concerns in mind?

How exactly does that kill the summoner job? Way to make assumptions

[Syrous]

Wait, what current state? We just read a few tidbits of content under development that will maybe be out in over 1 year. You really think that the dev team don't have your concerns in mind?

How exactly does that kill the summoner job? Way to make assumptions

First of all, take a deep breath and count to ten, nothing I said warrants you getting your panties in a twist. When I said "in it's current state" I meant this idea, I know full well it's still a long way away from being finalized. Don't need to get all defensive on me.

Secondly, about the killing the summoner job bit, if summons are restricted to groups of people and they can only be called once every time you kill the corresponding Primal, what do summoners do when they can't summon? Also, that creates a few more problems, either you would absolutely need a summoner in the free company to summon a Primal, or anyone could do it no matter what job. Either one doesn't seem right to me. They would need to be able to summon something other than primals, like elementals in FFXI, or give them another role to play. Was I clear enough this time?

[Kallera]

First of all, take a deep breath and count to ten, nothing I said warrants you getting your panties in a twist. When I said "in it's current state" I meant this idea, I know full well it's still a long way away from being finalized. Don't need to get all defensive on me.

Secondly, about the killing the summoner job bit, if summons are restricted to groups of people and they can only be called once every time you kill the corresponding Primal, what do summoners do when they can't summon? Also, that creates a few more problems, either you would absolutely need a summoner in the free company to summon a Primal, or anyone could do it no matter what job. Either one doesn't seem right to me. They would need to be able to summon something other than primals, like elementals in FFXI, or give them another role to play. Was I clear enough this time?

They can also introduce lesser spirits that serve the primals, expanding the list of summons introduced(ex: if ifrit is the primal, spirits can be Salamando, Phoenix, Belias, Bomb)each with situational strentghs/weaknesses. That wouldn't kill the summoner class at all.

Also, if the storyline is to be believed, you will need summoner"s" not just one. You are speedialing a god, you know.