Giving Scholar a Chance in Stormblood

[MsTanya]

As stated above, just the fact that its a boss debuff rather than a buff to party members kind of indicates its a multiplicative effect. You'll see maybe 5% crit increase at max gear, much much less at starting values if they do what they did in SB that they did in HW and reset our crit rates due to a level increase and a reworked formula.

[Menae]

As stated above, just the fact that its a boss debuff rather than a buff to party members kind of indicates its a multiplicative effect. You'll see maybe 5% crit increase at max gear, much much less at starting values if they do what they did in SB that they did in HW and reset our crit rates due to a level increase and a reworked formula.

How does that figure?

From a coding perspective, there's no reason on earth you couldn't make a buff additive or multiplicative with a debuff or vice versa.

[MsTanya]

Ok lets use logic then. Why on earth would they give us a more powerful version of litany on a shorter cooldown? Logic would dictate such a powerful buff would be on at least an equal cooldown to that of litany, this game is usually pretty good at cooldown duration reflecting the power of the ability its tied to.

[Starflake]

Ok lets use logic then. Why on earth would they give us a more powerful version of litany on a shorter cooldown? Logic would dictate such a powerful buff would be on at least an equal cooldown to that of litany, this game is usually pretty good at cooldown duration reflecting the power of the ability its tied to.

Chain Stratagam is on a single target, Battle Litany is also legit on multiple targets for burst and this gives much higher burst. In combination with our huge nerf to our AoE, it would make sense.

[Menae]

Ok lets use logic then. Why on earth would they give us a more powerful version of litany on a shorter cooldown? Logic would dictate such a powerful buff would be on at least an equal cooldown to that of litany, this game is usually pretty good at cooldown duration reflecting the power of the ability its tied to.

I wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether it's additive or multiplicative, simply that it being a debuff in no way tells you which it will be.

[FoxyAreku]

Am I the only one who just isn't worried at all?

If anything I'm excited, scholar has played exactly the same while being mandatory in all groups since they were introduced into the game basically. They're finally going to be a bit different, I think it will be refreshing even if they are nerfed a bit.

I mean, really, what's the worst that can happen? That groups start using the white mage and noct AST setup instead of a scholar? I find that hard to believe unless they have no other option heh.

[MsTanya]

Chain Stratagam is on a single target, Battle Litany is also legit on multiple targets for burst and this gives much higher burst. In combination with our huge nerf to our AoE, it would make sense.

That would be broken af in raid content though, it has nothing to do with the aoe nerf...that's another can of worms altogether lol

[AstroZombie]

I wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether it's additive or multiplicative, simply that it being a debuff in no way tells you which it will be.

Since its on enemy instead of on ally it can't be additive as it isn't adding to anyone's crit rate. It even says the enemy is 20% more likely to take a critical hit, which is x 0.2 of crit rate.

[Sebazy]

Am I the only one who just isn't worried at all?

They will still be highly capable raid healers, I don't doubt that for a second. My concern is that these changes make their personal DPS mechanics even shallower than WHM/AST.

[Alkimi]

Since its on enemy instead of on ally it can't be additive as it isn't adding to anyone's crit rate. It even says the enemy is 20% more likely to take a critical hit, which is x 0.2 of crit rate.

It's not that well worded and I guess we'll have to see after they either clarify the tooltip or we're able to test it out when 4.0 launches.

To put it simply if it works as some are suggesting then a 30% crit rate (30/100 chance of crit) would turn into a 37.5% crit rate (30/80 chance of crit).