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  1. #871
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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaidal View Post
    Ama, Illyria, here you go.
    LAMO! the drk is in the range of ilevel 260 and the brd is i270 or i268-i270 The only 2 in min entry gear was the drg and healer but since the brd was clueless on rotations, there was no dps at all and it took 37 mins.. just rofl.

    Looking closer I would guess the drk is pure i270 gear with i255 weapon

    There is no way a party like that should take 37 minutes to clear that. my god. So much overhealing rofl, and this is the person saying pure healing has no downtime....
    I guess 37 min runs is the norm when no one bothers to AoE dps.

    KisaiTenshi , know how I know the gear levels of your party? I am observant, I know what the norm tends to be for a given job. Also the brd had the glaring 275 relic, that is hard to miss, you where acting like all 4 where min level enter when it was really 2 people that over geared but clueless while the other 2 members was min level entry and clueless how to play.

    I carry crap like this and I never break the mid 20's because I am healing DPS or know what the hell I am doing on SMN. Also looks like you are not a pure clicker:
    https://youtu.be/eC8PuW58I-M?t=108

    I think it is a pure joke a pure clicker has more observational skills then you and can tell what is going on, while outperforming you in healing and healing DPS.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 06-08-2017 at 12:14 PM.

  2. #872
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    You do realize if you push Yoshi too far, he can simply make content so heal intensive that you can't dps or even remove the ability to dps in instances of 4 or more players.

    This whole debate on Healer DPS is getting more intense than the hatred between the Alliance and Horde in Warcraft.
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  3. #873
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    [...]
    Most of us are actually okay with bad/new players, on the only condition that they seek to improve themselves.

    The reason why people start become aggressive comes from the "pure healers" who defend their view with arguments such as "it's not my role, so I won't do it". It means that these players are actually aware of the possibility, and deliberatly choose not to.
    Since it's disrespectful to the other players, people on the forums will voice their anger at these type of entitled and selfish behaviors, especially since these healers absolutly don't want to make any kind of compromise, or ignore any argument or proof thrown their way.

    In short terms, they made the deliberate choice to be a burden on their team while refusing any kind of self improvement, and a lot of people are not okay with that.

    So, as I said, when you start hitting a brick wall over and over again, you'll probably start to lose your temper too.
    That's where the over saturation of sarcasm, exageration and even insults come from.
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  4. #874
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    You do realize if you push Yoshi too far, he can simply make content so heal intensive that you can't dps
    You mean Yoshi would make both sides happy? Everyone wants more casual damage output because as it stands- there's barely any.
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  5. #875
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Can people be honest here, which healer would you rather have in group, me or the other? Its a legit question, since you both now seen how both plays too.
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  6. #876
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    floofuf's Avatar
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    Snack Cake
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    You do realize if you push Yoshi too far, he can simply make content so heal intensive that you can't dps or even remove the ability to dps in instances of 4 or more players.

    This whole debate on Healer DPS is getting more intense than the hatred between the Alliance and Horde in Warcraft.
    If he does that many people will cry out against it.
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  7. #877
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    Khaidal Gesin
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    In case you missed it: https://gyazo.com/98782ffaec914d7f9ff844cb65733676 Look mom and dad! I dps while there is aoe!!!
    Lies! Shenanigans! What madness is this? *Head asplodes*
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  8. #878
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    ..
    Interesting point..I didn't look at it that way.

    Edit: But also, I do hope that eventually have more patience. I know things can be frustrating, but keep a cool head can make things better I believe.
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    Last edited by Seoulstar; 06-08-2017 at 12:17 PM.

  9. #879
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    Amirya's Avatar
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    Amirya Lyndress
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Having absolutely nothing I care to contribute, I ask only this:

    Where in the bloody heck are all of you finding these amazing tanks/dps who are so skilled at mitigating damage and dodging avoidables, that the healers can do nothing for a full minute or more? Seriously. Even when I'm dpsing as a healer, I always seem to be healing at least once every thirty seconds (if the party is skilled).

    Alternatively, where the heck are all of you amazing tanks/dps who are skilled at mitigating damage and dodging avoidables, the healers cannot not move and must therefore be spamming the jump button? (I can count, on one hand, the number of non-dpsing jumping healers.)

    I really really want to know where to find this magical land: Where the tanks and DPS are so perfect in avoiding HP-loss, that the healers literally forget how to heal for 60+ seconds and have their brain transform into a sugar-high of spacebar spam.
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  10. #880
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    That last medica spam on last boss when both dps trapped in the doll... no medica 2 either. Just medica 1 spam all the time.

    x2 DPS inside the doll and guess what happens... My own version of contribution. Link
    To be honest, the link should have been extended by another 2-3 seconds so that people will actually see the dolls being broken INSTANTLY by the White Mage. Knowing some people here, the point will fly over their heads otherwise.
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