XIV on Switch and Xbox

[Jetstream_Fox]

Xbox has been notorious with cross server play and lifting the requirements of Xbox Live. I think some of you have seriously never played on a Xbox console, their strict requirements date back to the original Xbox, this is going to be a bit of a history lesson. When Sega released Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 and 2 on Xbox, the game was required to have Xbox Live, plus a Hunters License, it's online service fee. Sega gave the green light for this, released the game, but stopped supporting it because of Xbox wanting to charge for updates, players got annoyed at the lack of updates and eventually started to hack the game, they were able to bring over Dreamcast items, that were planned to be released in content updates, as well as found files that suggested that Sega was considering bringing over Episode 4 to Xbox as a final expansion, instead that was scrapped and it was released as Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst, as a PC only release.

Microsoft has continued to do this, and even stopped the Xbox 360 version of The Orange Box from using steam servers, they also prevented Portal 2 from again being cross play. Sony actually allowed cross play before Xbox ever did and way before any of this started to come back into the main stream with Portal 2.

[era1Ne]

Xbox has been notorious with cross server play and lifting the requirements of Xbox Live. I think some of you have seriously never played on a Xbox console, their strict requirements date back to the original Xbox, this is going to be a bit of a history lesson. When Sega released Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 and 2 on Xbox, the game was required to have Xbox Live, plus a Hunters License, it's online service fee. Sega gave the green light for this, released the game, but stopped supporting it because of Xbox wanting to charge for updates, players got annoyed at the lack of updates and eventually started to hack the game, they were able to bring over Dreamcast items, that were planned to be released in content updates, as well as found files that suggested that Sega was considering bringing over Episode 4 to Xbox as a final expansion, instead that was scrapped and it was released as Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst, as a PC only release.

Microsoft has continued to do this, and even stopped the Xbox 360 version of The Orange Box from using steam servers, they also prevented Portal 2 from again being cross play. Sony actually allowed cross play before Xbox ever did and way before any of this started to come back into the main stream with Portal 2.

Microsoft and Sony did anti consumers decision regarding cross play and imo - as a fan of gaming in general - this needs to stop. Sony refused to agree and minecraft as one example isn't cross play with ps4, while you can play basically with every plattform together soon. There is also something going on with Dragon Quest X from Square Enix...

So the PS4 version costs more per month than the other versions, and you can't use the same sub to play on (Wii U/PC/Switch) and PS4 because they're not compatible. Awful.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...9&postcount=42
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...5&postcount=45
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https://www.polygon.com/2013/10/14/4...-ripstone-says
A chess game, cross play between smartphone, wiiu, ... and they did talk with sony about the restrictions in place. As far as i am aware, cross play never happend with ps4.

[Malzian]

Microsoft and Sony did anti consumers decision regarding cross play and imo - as a fan of gaming in general - this needs to stop.

Actually, in this case, it's not a disagreement between Sony and Microsoft but a disagreement between Yoshida and Microsoft. MS has 2 things that Yoshi-P is against right now: 1) MS wants dedicated, private, XBox-only servers which Yoshi-P will not agree to. 2) MS wants to require XBox Live Gold (the pay-for version) to play FFXIV which will cost consumers more to play the game over the PC and PS4 players.

Right now Sony is sitting back going, "You guys hash it out between yourselves, we'll just be sitting here letting XIV's customers bolster or numbers."

[era1Ne]

Actually, in this case, it's not a disagreement between Sony and Microsoft but a disagreement between Yoshida and Microsoft.

I am fully aware of this and did say in the sentence you quoted that both companies did anti consumer decision about cross play (and ofc about other topics). This was the last time yoshi talked about ff14 on xbox one or switch...

When it comes to the challenges of creating versions for both the Switch and the Xbox One, Yoshida said the following, making mention that it could be a while before any substantial progress is made in the matter:

“We need to make sure Nintendo and Microsoft understand what we do and have them know about our online and QA regulations,” Yoshida explained. “We believe these conversations will take a long time.”

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/06...ake-long-time/

[Malzian]

I am fully aware of this and did say in the sentence you quoted that both companies did anti consumer decision about cross play (and ofc about other topics). This was the last time yoshi talked about ff14 on xbox one or switch...http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/06...ake-long-time/

The line I quoted:

Microsoft and Sony did anti consumers decision regarding cross play and imo

Square-Enix != Sony. Sony and Square-Enix are two ENTIRELY different entities and this is an issue between Microsoft and Square-Enix, not Microsoft and Sony.

[era1Ne]

The line I quoted:


Square-Enix != Sony. Sony and Square-Enix are two ENTIRELY different entities and this is an issue between Microsoft and Square-Enix, not Microsoft and Sony.

You completely ignored the context of this sentence. The poster i quoted was talking about bad decision Microsoft made in the past for cross play and then i said "Microsoft and Sony did anti consumer decisions...." meaning Microsoft wasn't the only company doing anti consumers decisions in the past for different games. Sony aswell and this needs to stop, because i want cross play for every game with every plattform as a gamer. Again, the discussion and my sentence was about cross play in general and not about FF14. I get that my english is bad sometimes, but pls read my post and the quote i am refering to the next time, instead of taking this out of context and telling me stuff i already known.