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    I just got to post..... if healer dps is completely optional..... how would a 4 person healer pug team in potd ever be viable????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    I just got to post..... if healer dps is completely optional..... how would a 4 person healer pug team in potd ever be viable????
    Very simple: Healer dps ISN'T completely optional everywhere. There are times and places where healers HAVE to do dps to succeed.
    All-healer team in PotD is one such occasion. Solo play is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    I just got to post..... if healer dps is completely optional..... how would a 4 person healer pug team in potd ever be viable????


    CureI CureII: {Hello!}
    Pure Healer: Salut !
    Healer Onlyheals: Hi
    Youdont Paymysub: o/
    ...
    Pure Healer: lol que des heals
    Healer Onlyheals: What?
    Youdont Paymysub: 4 healers, great... thanks Yoshi-P
    CureI CureII: So, how are we supposed to do this?
    Healer Onlyheals: What do you mean?
    CureI CureII: Well, we have to kill stuff to progress, right?
    Youdont Paymysub: no lol
    Youdont Paymysub: that's not my role
    Youdont Paymysub: im a healer dude
    Youdont Paymysub: dps is for dps
    Pure Healer: y a des français ?
    Healer Onlyheals: Same for me, I don't even have DPS skills on my bars
    Healer Onlyheals: But I can draw cards, can that helps?
    CureI CureII: I don't think so...
    Pure Healer: oups g marché sur un piège qui fait spawn des mobs lol
    Healer Onlyheals: What is that baguette saying?
    CureI CureII: he walked on a trap that spawns mobs I think
    Youdont Paymysub: ill start healing him
    Youdont Paymysub: ...
    Youdont Paymysub: oh god i have aggro
    Healer Onlyheals: Don't worry, I'm here, I'm gonna heal you!
    CureI CureII: And I'm gonna heal you too! It's my job after all, none of you will die today!

    ... Later ...
    ... Way later ...
    ... On the same floor ...

    ...
    00:07
    00:06
    00:05
    Youdont Paymysub: atleast nobody died
    00:04
    00:03
    00:02
    CureI CureII: Yeah, good job us
    00:01
    Healer Onlyheals: We did what our role was about, this game is badly designed
    00:00
    Pure Healer: personne est français lol ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Beautiful things
    I actually had this same thought the other day. I am glad that you went ahead and made a fleshed out version - it was wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    This is beautiful. Did you make it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    This is beautiful. Did you make it?
    I sure did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus View Post
    There just happen to be 3 others nearby working towards the same thing lol.
    That's ultimatly the same thing whenever you play with other people.
    You all work towards a common goal. If someone isn't pulling their weight, then the others are in their rights to bring that up. It's then up to them to decide if they want to carry that player or if they want to get rid of him/her.
    No amount of Yoshi-P quotes will change the fact that the community itself decides how to deal with that kind of behavior.

    Besides, that's the same in a lot of games.
    Take Overwatch for example. If you pick Ana, you have a sniper rifle that can heal your teammates, or deal damage to the enemy, depending who you are shooting.
    Well, if your team doesn't need some heal and you can shoot a few rounds at baddies, then you'll probably do it, right? I mean, killing the other team is the common goal you share with your teammates.

    If only people could understand that before being a "healer", or even a "support", they are a player trying to reach a common goal with their teammates, and thus should to what's in their reach to make sure everything goes the best way it can. And being a "pure healer" doesn't achieve that.

    Being a bad player cannot make someone a good healer.

    At least that's my take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    I sure did.

    That's ultimatly the same thing whenever you play with other people.
    You all work towards a common goal. If someone isn't pulling their weight, then the others are in their rights to bring that up. It's then up to them to decide if they want to carry that player or if they want to get rid of him/her.
    No amount of Yoshi-P quotes will change the fact that the community itself decides how to deal with that kind of behavior.
    Except, it isn't. The difference being. I don't need them in PotD. I can legit do everything on my own. In a dungeon or raid one can't do that. Run off to solo pulls and you'll just die.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Besides, that's the same in a lot of games.
    Takes Overwatch for example. If you pick Ana, you have a sniper rifle that can heal your teammates, or deal damage to the enemy, depending who you are shooting.
    Well, if your team doesn't need some heal and you can shoot a few rounds at baddies, then you'll probably do it, right? I mean, killing the other team is the common goal you share with your teammates.
    Overwatch would be a VERY poor example. Overwatch is a competitive pvp game. They have to do both with that character or you'll likely lose the match.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yahallo View Post
    Better hope that the fourth person in the party doesn't agree with the kick. I'm pretty sure you only need two people to agree (the initiator included) to the kick in a dungeon.
    And you better hope they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus View Post
    Except, it isn't. The difference being. I don't need them in PotD. I can legit do everything on my own. In a dungeon or raid one can't do that. Run off to solo pulls and you'll just die.

    Overwatch would be a VERY poor example. Overwatch is a competitive pvp game. They have to do both with that character or you'll likely lose the match.
    Good thing they're getting rid of accuracy. Maybe it'll help some people actually getting the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    snip
    Lol, it was pretty amusing.

    PotD, however, is a completely different ballpark. You don't que as a role for it. Therefore tanking and healing literally don't matter. It would be more accurate to say PotD is basically like grouping with 3 others in open world (that place those healer damage spells were designed for ^_~). You might try to help keep each other alive but, you really don't have to. I treat it as if I'm solo personally. There just happen to be 3 others nearby working towards the same thing lol.
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