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  1. #181
    Player
    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lower Jeuno
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    There is a mindset already VERY well established that if a healer is not dpsing when possible then that player is not playing optimally. This falls into the "Difference of playstyles" category. Whether you like it or not, if you are not dpsing as a healer when there is nothing else to do, then people will be hovering there mouses over your name to initiate a kick and more often than not that kick will pass.

    It's called being fair to the people in your party, standing there doing nothing is not acceptable if people are at full hp. I urge any healer going into SB to try doing a dungeon and stand around doing nothing for 20+ seconds of every minute, tell me how long you stay in the dungeon, consider it my experiment for you.
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  2. #182
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    uh
    It's like debating with a parrot...

    And I'm not sure what it is about my character that offends you, but based on your past reasoning I doubt it'd be anything even semi-coherent.

    Please go troll elsewhere.
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  3. #183
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    Deviru's Avatar
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    Amerity Reyes
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 65


    Anyone remember the Conjurer class quests? Boy, I sure do.
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  4. #184
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    You still miss the part about me saying "If everyone does his job properly, the dungeon finishes easily".

    Healer = Healing
    Tank = Tanking
    DPS = Dealing Damage
    This is wrong FYI. Here it is for real.

    Healer = Finish the dungeon as fast as possible.
    Tank = Finish the dungeon as fast as possible.
    DPS = Finish the dungeon as fast as possible.
    If you as a healer aren't dpsing then you aren't actually doing your job and I will trash-talk you in ls or fc chat the same as I would a threat-combo only tank or a dps who single targets in AE situations, even though both of them are technically doing their role, according to you. I won't vote kick you though, unless someone else triggers it anyway, and I also won't commend you ever since your job could have been done by a drinking apkallu and /follow. I fairly routinely com healers who go too ham on DPS and accidentally let people die though, at least an effort was made.

    Funny how I almost never am left to die by a healer who is dpsing though, while the jerks who want to afk and watch netflix on their 2nd monitor are perfectly happy to watch me slowly die from unavoidable AE's and not do anything about it.
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  5. #185
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    Rasylia's Avatar
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    Rasylia S'ial
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    -
    Your problem (and a lot of other people have it as well) is that you only know extremes.
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  6. #186
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    Squigley's Avatar
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    Character
    Miko Yaong
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 81
    Ohhh, this thread is almost as good as the "We're all DD's now"
    Of course healer dps is optional. If it wasn't, we'd have dps checks where flawless party dps job performance wouldn't be enough to clear. But what Yoshi says doesn't really matter. What matters is how the game actually is (lots of healer downtime) and that 'Difference in playstyle' is a valid reason for votekicking a near-zero contribution healer.
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  7. #187
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Your problem (and a lot of other people have it as well) is that you only know extremes.
    Your problem is that your argument has no leg to stand on.
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  8. #188
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviru View Post


    Anyone remember the Conjurer class quests? Boy, I sure do.
    Oh, Reddit has been having a field day with this.


    (17)

  9. #189
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviru View Post


    Anyone remember the Conjurer class quests? Boy, I sure do.
    Allow me to fix it for you:



    Reality:

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  10. #190
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Your problem (and a lot of other people have it as well) is that you only know extremes.
    Hmm yes I can see how, "Finish the dungeon as fast as possible." Is an extreme stance to take.
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