Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Mishari]

This debate is ridiculous. Let everyone play like they want.
What is so bad about a dungeon taking some minutes longer? Really?
I understand that it is neded in savage raids an i'm ok with that. But in normal/casual content? Who tf cares??
People should stop looking at others and how they perform (again in casual content). Just enjoy the fucking game!

[SaitoHikari]

Honestly, now that I think about it, maybe it's time for the devs to really increase the amount of damage enemies do to put more pressure on healers in general. Healing is pretty much the only role in the game where casting something every 5-10 seconds is still considered adequately fulfilling your role in most content, whereas a tank doing that will lose aggro on everything quickly, and a DPS doing that will make the run take so much longer and drastically increase the chance of a wipe if there's a DPS check along the way.

But I can already tell that the moment the dev team does that, there's going to be an uproar from the healer community for an entirely different reason... And I doubt said complaints are going to come from the faction that is already accustomed to stance dancing.

[Seoulstar]

Yoshida also thought that the 2.0 warrior was fine, effectively telling people to "git gud" despite the fact warrior was measurably worse than paladin. He signed off on bowmages. He agreed to Diadem. The man is not infallible.

Question is..would you be saying the same thing if Yoshi said it was in fact mandatory for healers to dps?

I wish I knew how to end it. But this is a forum, so people can bellyache all day because something doesn't agree with them.

Also love the RWBY clip.

Sadly that will always be the case, I'm just getting to the point that I'm no longer caring about the topic. Also, thank you ♥

[Neophyte]

I guess not much according to you since he is only the Game Director and final decision maker....but whatever right.

His decisionmaking ends when the game (and it's inherent rules) are released. If he wants the game to be played in a different way, he has to change the game and not the community.

Are you kidding? That's like a fighting game with a character who can spam one attack and mostly insta-win with it and the Producer saying "Well, players are not supposed to do that.".

The game devs have to react with fixes and adjustments to the game to face the way players play and not the other way round.

[Powercow]

Question is..would you be saying the same thing if Yoshi said it was in fact mandatory for healers to dps?

Given his track record of other things, like those I listed, yeah I would say the man is still a mortal being capable of making mistakes.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Stone III
Aero IV
Holy
Gravity
Combust II
Malefic III
Lord of Crowns
Shadow Flare
Bio II
Broil II
Bane
Shadow Flare

You could create an entirely new DPS class using all of the 4.0 Healer skills/spells that are not "mandatory." Must feel great to have two hot bars instead of three.

Whoa, holy overgeneralization batman.

Sure might look like a lot of damage spells healers have when you combine three seperate jobs worth of damage spells together in one list. But it doesn't mean much when most of which are redundant copies of each other. Would TOoootally love to see this new dps class in action. /s ;P

Personally, I don't give a flying rat's arse what my healer does. So long as they keep me and the rest of the group alive, they could be dancing in circles around me or the boss if they wanted.

People always seem to forget, a Healer's function in a group is to Heal. Dpsing is MY job.

[Seoulstar]

Given his track record of other things, like those I listed, yeah I would say the man is still a mortal being capable of making mistakes.

So he's damned if he do and damned if he don't and this topic will probably go on until the servers shuts down for good..and maybe even after that.

[Erys]

"Healer DPS is not mandatory", said the madman that tunes Savage to be cleared by above minimum ilvl 80-90% dummy rotation performing damage dealers.
Now tell me how healer dps is not mandatory to clear content without waiting for gear, therefore making content's life longer by a gear wall.
Ah yeah, if it wasn't like that you would then complain about the gear wall. Healer dps is a contribution to the team, like tanks optimizing cds/doing dps and dps using support/healing/defensive cds.
*slow clap*

Even if I don't agree with Mr Yoshida latests decisitions, I have respect for the man. That doesn't exempt him from making statements like this that are contradictory with the game's design, which makes it a stupid statement. He's a hard working and respectable developer, but sometimes he just needs to take a step back to take a look at his game and weight what he's going to say in anticipation.

[TheRealMadruck]

I am going to quote a person from youtube named Sotrubaby when he stated "When you EXPECT a healer to dps, you EXPECT a dps to heal you". That is all that needs to be said!

[Exiled_Tonberry]

That's pretty obvious.
Personally, it's rather boring to just heal, but I understand if healers feel too pressured to heal. I felt the same way back in 2.0, especially raiding.

At least they'll be able to DPS with things like Assize and Earthly Star automatically now