Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Hamada]

That is something you need to ask SE and Yoshi P. Until they change it....they are there to Heal with the choice to DPS...nothing more or less!

No I am asking you since yoshi P is not responding to that issue.

Why is it ok for healers to get easy mode and DPS have to work so hard? This is by the so called game design you are advertising. How is that fair? I am at the border line of saying Yoshi-P does not understand what goes on if he cannot see why people dislike seeing DPS needing these split second tight rotations while healer gets easy mode.

Even then, people are prone to screwing up once in a while. That can catch a healer off guard and have to immediately swap back to heal them. Besides I did say that I help DPS when it is needed. You passed that off like it didn't matter.

Nope, that is the point of my story. If a healer can rank 4th highest dps while highest healing, that is enough to show this is wrong, esp when people where taking way more damage then they should have been taking. This was a shield healer outhealing a regen healer too, that is even more off the wall absurd. If you are experience enough and learn the fights, this becomes a non issue.

[Powercow]

Even then, people are prone to screwing up once in a while. That can catch a healer off guard and have to immediately swap back to heal them. Besides I did say that I help DPS when it is needed. You passed that off like it didn't matter.

Here's the thing: the only time DPS isn't needed is if the enemies aren't dead. Until then, DPS is needed. Healing may or may not be needed at certain points, and if it IS needed it's definitely more important, but a significant amount of the time it's not.

[Abriael]

Why is it ok for healers to get easy mode and DPS have to work so hard? This is by the so called game design you are advertising. How is that fair? I am at the border line of saying Yoshi-P does not understand what goes on if he cannot see why people dislike seeing DPS needing these split second tight rotations while healer gets easy mode.

In every MMORPG there are classes that are easier to play, and classes that are harder to play.

That's simply because there are people who enjoy challenge, and people who don't, and different classes are designed to appeal to different people.

Even among DPS there are jobs that are much easier than others.

[JisKing98]

[Seoulstar]

Now that even the head of the game thinks this. Maybe that will finally end this tiring debate once and for all.

[TheRealMadruck]

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You obviously did not watch the video. Yoshi P made it quite clear to Mr. Happy on the message he was trying to convey. You either want to ignore that or just didn't want to see it yourself!

[Alestorm]

Is it totally mandatory? Not really... no.

Would I be bored not doing anything because no one is hurt enough it heal? I would be lying if I said "no". To each their own.

At the very least throwing occasional DoTs makes the run go even a tiny bit faster.

[Neophyte]

Game design was intended* to be optional. That doesn't mean it was designed to be optional. Design is a result.

And I seriously have to wonder how far out of touch Yoshi is with design concepts if his team formed such a downtime-heavy design (again, the result) under that intention.

This.

FF14 is a multiplayer game. "How to play" is decided by game design.

Would anyone not shoot with a medic in Call of Duty, if the producer or director says "Medics are intended to mostly heal, using your gun is optional" or would anyone not say "Well... stupid design to give them a gun and enough time to use it"?

[Hikuras]

The world explodes.

[Shurrikhan]

Even then, people are prone to screwing up once in a while. That can catch a healer off guard and have to immediately swap back to heal them. Besides I did say that I help DPS when it is needed. You passed that off like it didn't matter.

Probably because there's never a time DPS is not needed. Only healing is capped. There are simply GCDs where DPS is needed less than healing. The idea that DPS is a side-function is what's problematic. Primary output is always the primary function. It's just that derivatives may be more efficient. But, their opportunities are capped, whereas direct output never is. We use whatever's most efficient.

Tactics left be, healing a person and thereby preventing their death extends their average DPS for a greater duration and thereby total. In the few globals it takes to keep someone alive, this will almost always outweigh your own direct contribution. Even if your potential DPS were identical, you are maintaining twice that DPS with only a fraction of the time spent.

That's what support is—where the indirect influence on outputs exceeds direct influence in efficiency. That's why tanks and healers in this game are so powerful per party member slot. But these opportunites for support are also capped. You cannot support, let alone to maximum efficiency, with 100% of your GCDs. For the remainder, you're limited to direct output.