things need to change for Warrior

[kobe-sabi]

beserk changes cool, but the 50 to 30% sucks. both pld and drk have a mp 360 move to gain aggro and have a way to replenish mp easily, War has no use for mp. no easy way to gain TP and dont give me that crap about stance dance and what lose have what rage i have to lose even more rage to go back into defiance for a measly 200 TP, the heal and the TP should be there own skill. Penalizing the War with a gap closer worth 20 rage with a weak ass potency, upheaval strong ass skill that decreases as your HP decreases. deliverance should be 10%, the other tanks are above 5% why not War and what's with (shake it off) if i cant (shake it off) a raid debuff then we don't want it, give us a 360 aggro skill that works with mp,have them learn it from a shaman, call it (Raw intimidation you flash an aura which pacify the enemies for 5s to 3s to 1s) other than overpower, Inner Release real nice, but up the duration to 30s give a little wiggle room and have Raw intuition parry from all angles.

[Atreides]

The only thing I agree with would be "Shake it off!" It's almost like they are mocking us now that Berserk doesn't cause a debuff, I'd say that skill comes 2 expansions too late and is not needed anymore. :x
"Shake it off" should've been a Tank Role skill that will be mostlikely never be used instead of wasting on new ability slot of warriors.
Other than that I don't see a problem with TP, I mean unless they change something drasticly a Warrior will Tank about 95% of the time in defiance anyway.
But yeah the 20 Rage cost for the gap closer is stupid too. :/

[aqskerorokero]

beserk changes cool, but the 50 to 30% sucks. both pld and drk have a mp 360 move to gain aggro and have a way to replenish mp easily, War has no use for mp. no easy way to gain TP and dont give me that crap about stance dance and what lose have what rage i have to lose even more rage to go back into defiance for a measly 200 TP, the heal and the TP should be there own skill.

Ever consider to stance dance when the gauge is empty XD? When you consume almost all of your tp you have already done the entire rotation a couple of times...

[konpachizaraki]

changing berserk to be exactly the same as fight or flight is better, fight or flight is currently 30% damage increase with 30 secs duration and 60 secs cooldown, get rid of beast gauge comsumption for both onslaught and upheavel, give us our bloodbath back,let war use infuriate outside of battle and get rid of the stance change reduces gauge by half nonsense for all tanks and it will be a good change

[SuperNoob]

I do plan to main warrior and even use it endgame. But after seeing the tooltip I'm held back. Sure is nice to do more FC, decimate and inner beast.

I'm a new warrior who just got used to stance dancing fun.

[Canadane]

i have to lose even more rage to go back into defiance

I think you're doing something wrong!

[MiniPrinny]

I think you're doing something wrong!

Ditto. I'm starting to get tired of these 3.0 WAR players whining. Back in my day, we finished up in Defiance before dropping it and liked it!

[Tovaras]

People who dismiss the WAR complaints about stance dancing haven't put the thought in to see what the true cost of losing half your gauge means. We're talking 50 points, or two combos, or 6 GCDs when you swap from 100 points.

"But then spend all your points before swapping."

That puts us in another poor situation where now we are stuck rebuilding stacks in Defiance with a damage penalty. The 20% damage penalty over 6 GCDs to get us to 50 in Defiance for an Inner Beast would be an even larger potency loss than the loss of swapping from 100 down to 50 to have 50 left to Inner Beast.

[kobe-sabi]

i been playing War since 2.0 when it was boring as hell to play and offer nothing more than, at least I'm not a 1,2,3 PLD. 3.0 came along gave War life, our self healing step up, our dps step up, don't come in here acting high and all mighty, if Dark was doing high damage and could self heal like a War you would be on the same tip, i served in the USAF for over ten years been all over the world, everybody whines about something there involved in. Plus PLD and DRK don't get penalizes when they swap stances, but warriors do, we get a shitty skill (shake it off- that removes almost any debuff = garbage, PLD can block Magic and from all angles). the Gap closer cost 20 rage, plunge doesn't, plus you can't infuriate till your in battle to get the 50 rage to spend on the skill. No more unchained at the beginning of the fight, i now have to tomahawk, infuriate, unchained, butcher block combo. WAR are getting pick on cause of this Man Mode crap, so you can get off KING CANADANE tip now.

[kobe-sabi]

No one is doing anything wrong, every time you swap stances you lose half of what you have, PLD and DRK don't, they can freely change their stance