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  1. #31
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Well yoshi-p did say that according to his "data" in heavensward not many people changes were made to the tank/healer population and thus he introduced 2 MOST POPULAR job as DPS in.

    Worst possible scenario: A month after 4.0 tank/healer populations dropped really bad. People complained and yoshi-p comes out and apologize and tries to balance things out. We might get new tank/healer jobs(nah don't think so..) or they might buff or give us back our skills they took.

    As a Dark knight main though, i rather have back scourge and dark dance and you can take bloodspiller and shove it.
    You still have Dark Dance; its just called Anticipation now (and why? 30% parry chance is not a very good CD. Probably going to be the least-picked role skill by far)

    What's more likely going to happen is once the raid comes out, there will be too many DPS for raid spots and if people want to raid, some are going to have to go tank and/or healer. Or they just won't be able to raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    You still have Dark Dance; its just called Anticipation now (and why? 30% parry chance is not a very good CD. Probably going to be the least-picked role skill by far)

    What's more likely going to happen is once the raid comes out, there will be too many DPS for raid spots and if people want to raid, some are going to have to go tank and/or healer. Or they just won't be able to raid.
    Anticipation is a role action and you can only pick 5 of them. And there are like 3 dark knight skills in the role action list now. Low blow, repraisal and anticipation(dark dance with no evade).
    Whose bloody smart idea was it to take away tank stuns and put in role action instead so we all have to stress upon which skills to pick for the 5.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Anticipation is a role action and you can only pick 5 of them. And there are like 3 dark knight skills in the role action list now. Low blow, repraisal and anticipation(dark dance with no evade).
    Whose bloody smart idea was it to take away tank stuns and put in role action instead so we all have to stress upon which skills to pick for the 5.
    Because you don't need stuns in every piece of content? Just like healers whining over Esuna, its not something you need 100% of the time

    And really, Dark Dance was a bad cooldown overall (same for Foresight). Its good that its not wasting a spot anymore
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Because you don't need stuns in every piece of content? Just like healers whining over Esuna, its not something you need 100% of the time

    And really, Dark Dance was a bad cooldown overall (same for Foresight). Its good that its not wasting a spot anymore
    That is true but isn't it a DPS increase though since it's ogcd. I don't know about you but i love to press ogcd skills while doing my long ass combos..
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    That is true but isn't it a DPS increase though since it's ogcd. I don't know about you but i love to press ogcd skills while doing my long ass combos..
    Stuns and Silences are no longer doing damage. Just applying the CC.
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    Challenge the weak to make them strong.

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    Abriael Rosen
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    Shorter queues for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    I actually think people went back to theyr old jobs because the new ones were very weak at the start of the Expansion wich doesnt seem to be the Case with RDM and SAM. Also both of the new jobs were HIGHLY requested and hoped for.
    Well for one thing. Drk/Mch/Ash should have started at 50 so you could immediately main them if you wanted to. Likewise Sam/Rdm should have started at 60, none of this ten levels behind nonsense. If the HW jobs had been better tested (maybe with an actual public test server so players could get their hands on it and test them ahead of time!) and they started at the correct level (in this case 50) when HW launched then I think we would have seen a lot more people stick with them.

    Same with Sam/Rdm, if they did the right thing and made them start 60 instead of 50 and if they end up working properly (as in not underpowered), then more people would stick to it rather than going back to what they were playing.
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  9. #39
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    If you are going to play a job just for short que times you may as well just be a robot. You shouldn't have to play something just to avoid Que times that not good design.

    I'm sure a lot of dps will stop trying to be dps though once they see 20-30min wait times out of the gate, I'm actually waiting for those threads to pop up because I know it will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TristanBlane View Post
    OH MY GOODNESS
    This was absolutely the case for me when I got AST.
    I continued to level it but kept going as my old main SCH.
    When Heavensward first came out I IMMEDIETLY got my hands on AST and started leveling it. I had SO MUCH trouble keeping my tank alive, especially DRKs. They were SO SQUISHY. Then I learned that Diurnal sect AST is basically WHM so it became a lot easier. And then the buffs down the road just made the job amazing. And now the rest is history. AST is my favorite job in the world. :3
    I heard a few storys like this before^^
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