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    A big Problem that MAY come up with Stormblood...

    So.. a big chunck of Tanks and Healers i know are going to switch Dps. And no Not only because of Sam and Redmage, but also because of other DPS jobs wich got nice visual and skill upgrades.

    The Reason: Tanks (Paladin excluded) get nerfed. Yes Warrior can Felcleave 6 times now but the Numbers of those Cleaves are way smaller atm. I dont even wanna Talk about DRK.. the whole Tankforum is full of it. The only good Looking Tank (at least for me) seems to be the Paladin and visualy he only got one serious upgrade.

    Also: Healers seem to be very unhappy with the Whitemage and Scholar changes. I dont play those 2 Jobs but i dont know one Healer who is Happy about the changes.

    Dps however got much Love. Look at Bard, look at Machinist. From the videos i have seen they look incredibly fun to play! Samurai Zips around and reks everything in no time. Redmage rezzing 4 people in 15 Seconds? Having nice visuals and a seemengly complex Rotation that will keep people invested for a While.

    Im a Tank main myself but im also !considering! to switch to a DPS Job. (Yes Samurai... I hoped so much it would be a tank.)

    Yes everything is still in development and MIGHT change. Yes there will always be Tanks out there im not saying they are going to be extinct. What im saying is that we are probably going to experience a serious extension of Times to wait for a Dungeon. Raids are usually not a big problem cause it takes more DPS for a Raid than a dungeon.

    But yeah.. after hearing how many people i know are already switching im a bit.. concerned.
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    I agree with you OP I was a DRK man but wow don't like the DRK changes and worst of all no dark flame aura that was promised when new skills were added. Yes I see more people go to dps jobs based on being both visual app leading and more rewarding.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    You basically have two choices:

    Switch to DPS and deal with the queue times and insane competition for statics

    Or

    Stay a tank/healer and enjoy faster queues and other benefits of being less common.


    Also, none of the tanks received major nerfs, and really only WHM is in trouble. Everyone else looks fine or better.
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    So is your issue flashiness or potency?

    DRK seems like it will be ok. It effectively got its own Fel Cleave that it can use in Grit and Mana management should be easier since Darkside doesn't consume MP anymore. War has lots of flashiness, no longer has an issue with pacification on Berserk and gains some pretty potent cds. The only thing it seems to really be losing is its 10% damage reduction, which was a bit broken frankly, and some of its health regen.

    Plus PLD looks amazing. Its got so many fixes. from its Blocks effecting magic, to the more controlled use of Sheltron using the Oath gauge, to finally having an AoE damage attack baseline. Plus its casts are now uninterruptable which was the primary issue with those casts.

    What specifically is the issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    I agree with you OP I was a DRK man but wow don't like the DRK changes and worst of all no dark flame aura that was promised when new skills were added. Yes I see more people go to dps jobs based on being both visual app leading and more rewarding.
    Did they promise this? I thought they said that they couldn't make it look good when moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    I agree with you OP I was a DRK man but wow don't like the DRK changes and worst of all no dark flame aura that was promised when new skills were added. Yes I see more people go to dps jobs based on being both visual app leading and more rewarding.
    Yeah the Visuals are are a big thing in this Game^^ Thats why everyone glamours the shit out of theyr characters. But yeah its not only a hype thing. They are totally serious with like preparing the shared lvl 60 Gear, getting specific Food and Stuff so the switch to the other Job are going to be more easy and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Also, none of the tanks received major nerfs, and really only WHM is in trouble. Everyone else looks fine or better.
    SCH is very much in trouble for regular dungeons.. AoE got gutted and the rotation will be boring as hell, with no other healer having a more interesting rotation.. which gives reason to switch roles as well.
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    Faster queues for me.... I am ok with this.
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    Yeah they really seem dead set on keeping DRK in Grit at all times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Yeah the Visuals are are a big thing in this Game^^ Thats why everyone glamours the shit out of theyr characters. But yeah its not only a hype thing. They are totally serious with like preparing the shared lvl 60 Gear, getting specific Food and Stuff so the switch to the other Job are going to be more easy and fast.
    I kind of wonder if longer queue times will change their minds. Honestly I think that is a big reason healer and tank numbers usually average out. People who don't mind those jobs and don't like waiting naturally migrate back to them. As it is SAM and RDM are going to spike the DPS queues early on.

    Regardless what exactly is bothering you? If its flashy you want then just look at Release the Inner Beast. Big explosion, Aura of flame, glowing red eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcwen View Post
    SCH is very much in trouble for regular dungeons.. AoE got gutted and the rotation will be boring as hell, with no other healer having a more interesting rotation.. which gives reason to switch roles as well.
    Its worth pointing out that apparently at the JP media tour Bane wasn't nerfed so its unclear which is the more likely to make it live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    So is your issue flashiness or potency?

    DRK seems like it will be ok. It effectively got its own Fel Cleave that it can use in Grit and Mana management should be easier since Darkside doesn't consume MP anymore. War has lots of flashiness, no longer has an issue with pacification on Berserk and gains some pretty potent cds. The only thing it seems to really be losing is its 10% damage reduction, which was a bit broken frankly, and some of its health regen.

    Plus PLD looks amazing. Its got so many fixes. from its Blocks effecting magic, to the more controlled use of Sheltron using the Oath gauge, to finally having an AoE damage attack baseline. Plus its casts are now uninterruptable which was the primary issue with those casts.

    What specifically is the issue?



    Did they promise this? I thought they said that they couldn't make it look good when moving.
    It was in a live letter Q&A
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