Is it just me or are people overreacting to WHM too soon?

[Ayer2015]

They might get more usage in raids, but the other point is, there's nothing a WHM can do that the other two healers can already provide with even more side bonuses.

This I 100% agree with

[Ayer2015]

If you're using them as clutch heals you're not using them efficiently.

Healers aren't a dps class where you use every skill when up. The why I play has serverd my well.... you do you...

[MomomiMomi]

Healers aren't a dps class where you use every skill when up. The why I play has serverd my well.... you do you...

You're free to play however you want. It's still inefficient.

[Hamada]

You're free to play however you want. It's still inefficient.

Yep see my quote. I was editing and 5 new posts appeared.

If you are using them as clutch heals, it means someone does not know what they are doing. If you can run full DFs and never use them because your waiting for clutch moment, you are one of them that does not know what they are doing.

[Ayer2015]

Using them as cluch heals means someone does not know what they are doing.

I can dps just fine without relying on them as a crutch. It reminds when when AST was first released and people constantly complained about mana efficiency and dsp... never had any issues doing both back then either.

[Kitfox]

Those cool-downs are intended as clutch heals.... if being used otherwise we play the role differently.

You most definitely play the role differently. Healing CDs are planned as counters to mechanics and burst damage, and when they're not needed for those, you use them to replace less efficient hard casted heals.

[Miste]

they allow to squeeze in more dps. Using them as cluch heals means someone does not know what they are doing.

Oh, I thought they meant clutch heal as in you DPS until tank is almost dead and then use Benediction or Tetra? That's what I do...I thought it would be kiiinnd of considered a clutch heal since you need an instant heal if you let the tank drop that low and close to death. If Tetra or Bene are on cooldown I usually stop DPS sooner in order to Cure II the tank to make sure he dont die then go back to DPS etc.

You sure that isn't what Momi meant? I may have misunderstood her though :x but my explanation is what I thought she meant.

[Risvertasashi]

Healers aren't a dps class where you use every skill when up.

That's exactly why lilies suck.

And lilies aren't even the worst problem by a long shot. But they're not useful for exactly because CDs are planned out based on phases and attack sequences and having it come up a few seconds earlier won't change that.

[Ayer2015]

You most definitely play the role differently. Healing CDs are planned as counters to mechanics and burst damage, and when they're not needed for those, you use them to replace less efficient hard casted heals.

perhaps clutch heal was the wrong term to use. what you are outlining sums up how I use them

[Hamada]

I can dps just fine without relying on them as a crutch. It reminds when when AST was first released and people constantly complained about mana efficiency and dsp... never had any issues doing both back then either.

You are not understanding, so ill try something else.

Tank does a large pull. Cast aero III/ aero I while pull is being made, swiftcast holy, assize, presence of mind, aero III (because the last group shouldn't be hit so you cast it here while everything is stun to make sure everything is hit) cast holy (toss in shroud of saints when mp is low enough to make use of it, like 2 or 3 holys? use bene when tank is low enough, sometimes pulls can be done without a heal, but usually only good wars do that, and keep dpsing. This is why me and momi are saying waiting for them for clutch is inefficient, if you are skilled enough you should be able to adjust to bad without them. (Oh I forgot DS regen in somewhere in there but that's the idea)

Oh, I thought they meant clutch heal as in you DPS until tank is almost dead and then use Benediction or Tetra? That's what I do...I thought it would be kiiinnd of considered a clutch heal since you need an instant heal if you let the tank drop that low and close to death. If Tetra or Bene are on cooldown I usually stop DPS sooner in order to Cure II the tank to make sure he dont die then go back to DPS etc.

You sure that isn't what Momi meant? I may have misunderstood her though :x but my explanation is what I thought she meant.

When someone says they hold for a clutch moment, it mean they do not use them like you, momi, and me have in mind, we are talking to moogle head ;p usually people mean by " save for clutch moment" they hold them till something bad happens to heal a huge amount of damage (i/e playing with bad tanks, dps that don't dodge, etc) That is why momi was saying it is inefficient (dps loss) because it is.