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  1. #31
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    I hope we can Advanced meld str to accessories again. We will kind of need it with getting locked to Vit accessories.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    Nothing new, crafted Penta meld accessories are making a comeback in the meta.
    Pentamelds might not be that great. I've heard that Tier 6 Materia will be limited to slots only and overmelding main stats will be impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    I hope we can Advanced meld str to accessories again. We will kind of need it with getting locked to Vit accessories.
    Not happening if the melding changes stay mostly the same (like they should).

    At most we will be melding a single tier 6 Strength into our accessories.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Pentamelds might not be that great. I've heard that Tier 6 Materia will be limited to slots only and overmelding main stats will be impossible.



    Not happening if the melding changes stay mostly the same (like they should).

    At most we will be melding a single tier 6 Strength into our accessories.
    It would only empower tanks since the other accessories would be maxed out on their main stat.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Pentamelds might not be that great. I've heard that Tier 6 Materia will be limited to slots only and overmelding main stats will be impossible.



    Not happening if the melding changes stay mostly the same (like they should).

    At most we will be melding a single tier 6 Strength into our accessories.
    Did they reveal the Tier 6 materia number so we have an idea on how much stats we are getting from it?
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    It would only empower tanks since the other accessories would be maxed out on their main stat.
    Not by much. At i270 the +75 Str we get from melding our accessories only increases Str by about 6%. DpS have a ~42% lead that will only grow. Str might be the best dps increase for tank melds, but it isn't going to be broken enough to help tanks catch up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    Did they reveal the Tier 6 materia number so we have an idea on how much stats we are getting from it?
    Nope, but i doubt its going to be more that +20.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Not by much. At i270 the +75 Str we get from melding our accessories only increases Str by about 6%. DpS have a ~42% lead that will only grow. Str might be the best dps increase for tank melds, but it isn't going to be broken enough to help tanks catch up.



    Nope, but i doubt its going to be more that +20.
    This all assumes they don't put STR on fending accs. Since accs are getting locked they could put STR and VIT on them, dps wouldn't be able to use them after all.
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  7. #37
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    If they don't put STR on VIT accessories then tanks are the only role that have to actively go out and meld their accessories to get their main damage stat on them (which was one of the big problems from before that I thought they were looking to avoid). Hopefully they're smart enough to put STR on the VIT accessories, though.
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  8. #38
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Why are they changing us back to STR if not to force VIT accs and nerf tank damage scaling? I doubt Accs will have STR.

    I've come to like the VIT/STR 0.45 merger. Thought it was a good fix, and self-sustain design kind of evolved with it nicely. Thought we were finding a potentially new tanking style.

    My guess is they are foreseeing future 4.05 hotfix adjustments, and they would rather us start with a bare minimum attack power scaling so they can buff in patch ~4.05 4.1 etc, opposed to start out possibly too strong and be nerfed down later.
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  9. #39
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    If they don't put STR on VIT accessories then tanks are the only role that have to actively go out and meld their accessories to get their main damage stat on them (which was one of the big problems from before that I thought they were looking to avoid). Hopefully they're smart enough to put STR on the VIT accessories, though.
    tanks are already doing this. and since you can't overmeld mainstats nothing with change in regards of materia melding.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    tanks are already doing this. and since you can't overmeld mainstats nothing with change in regards of materia melding.
    Aye, but currently if you don't meld STR you're only losing out on half your AP in accessories whereas with the change you'd be losing out on all of it. The current situation isn't good either, tanks shouldn't have to meld their accessories w/ (one of) their main damage stat(s) when literally no other role has to. It'd be fine if everyone else was doing something similar, but they're not - if you don't meld a Crit 5/6 on your accessory as a melee you're missing out on very little damage but if you don't meld a STR 5/6 on your accessory as a tank you're missing out on a ton, and even more with the change. It's just really bad design and the only way I can think that would easily rectify it is adding STR to be inherently on Fending accessories as this also alleviates the problem of scaling (w/ just VIT we're always stuck at X STR on right side no matter how high our ilvl goes).
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