In defense of WHM 4.0

[Yallaid]

Maybe 4.X will finally make players here realize the value of MP efficiency instead of pure throughput.

weew sure hope they make Mana Efficiency a huge deal for 4.x, that way I can feel even worse when my mana-sipping Regens/Medica IIs and other HoTs don't proc a single damn lilly or confession - ever.

[OcieKo]

weew sure hope they make Mana Efficiency a huge deal for 4.x, that way I can feel even worse when my mana-sipping Regens/Medica IIs and other HoTs don't proc a single damn lilly or confession - ever.

More like my rage at WHMs who only use Medica II and never Medica I will have to actually think about the MP cost

[Yallaid]

More like my rage at WHMs who only use Medica II and never Medica I will have to actually think about the MP cost

but Medica I doesn't proc anything either?? only Cure I and Cure II. am I supposed to go down the list after a raid-wide attack and Cure I each person once every 2.5 seconds. Is that what SE wants me to do?

[Metsonm]

We'll have to see the potency changes; but if there is no changes WHM lost 1 dot that you were not using at lvl 60 (stone 3 > aero 1). Again we'll have to see the final potency.

Just a clarification, Aero still saw use for weaving in fluid aura, movement or other OGCDs like with other classes. Not a 100% uptime, but still significant.

[javid]

Just a clarification, Aero still saw use for weaving in fluid aura, movement or other OGCDs like with other classes. Not a 100% uptime, but still significant.

if all the potency remain the same; we still lost nothing bc aeroII is instant cast, so there goes your weaving, that aero I offered you. Have to see potencies....but potentially a good lost

[Saraphin]

AERO is the instant cast, Aero 2 is not, Aero 3 is not

[Erakir]

AERO is the instant cast, Aero 2 is not, Aero 3 is not

In Stormblood, Aero 2 replaces Aero 1 when it's unlocked, and is instant.

https://youtu.be/jCQg8rtGIHo?t=234 (3:54)

[Saraphin]

well i guess that's one good thing? i'm not sure...it's still going to be one of those things that we have to wait, see, and gather our spite for

[Metsonm]

I agree with having to look at the final potencies, but just saying Aero's damage isn't something to write off as it still had ticks potentially half the time.

[Gumbercules]

reminds me a bit of wow holy paladin (heal mt while having the buffs there to "eat" for a big inc hit etc) That being said this also means that it will come down to how content is handled. 4man I don't think it will matter but if it happens like now again and a "few" upgrades make the tank and raid considerably more tanky it will probably lead to the same issues as now. Why take a throughput healer when you can take utility since you do not need the "big pushes" :P We will have to see how they go about tuning content around this changes (this applies to PLD too) but if they do it right your meta will be whm + other, with maybe pld having an interesting twist in its viability being pld + other + other, instead of whm + other. (which in it of itself would be a interesting take, keep in mind you will never remove the "this is the absolute best setup" mentality though)