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  1. #51
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    Xenosan's Avatar
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore65 View Post
    ..but I am a little disappointed Living Dead and Unleash/Abyssal Drain didn't get looked at. Living Dead is currently a bit too finicky to use in PUG groups, and seemed ripe for some simplification...
    Well, with the incoming 4.0 PLD I've prepared an argument for buffing Living Dead and Holmgang to bring them into 4.x game.

    But let PLD have it's day.

    Too soon.

    Too soon.
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  2. #52
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Following DRK has been a roller coaster of emotions. At first I was really worried that we'd lost our defensive edge, and then it seemed like we'd gained so much DPS and could possibly overtake WAR.

    Since then I've realized that we got our own better version of Inner Beast, and our DPS, as it stands now, is actually nerfed. Darkside's buff is great and all, but we lost way too much. Low Blow's potency + reprocs, Reprisal's hefty potency, and Scourge being the big downer on our DPS. Not to mention that Dark Passenger's MP cost is through the roof now (on top of a slight nerf to it when not DA'd.) All our MP buffs don't comprise an overall buff, but are rather necessary to mitigate the loss.

    Sadly, they won't achieve it fully as things stand now.
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    Last edited by DWolfwood; 06-02-2017 at 06:41 AM.

  3. #53
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    On another note, I've no earthly idea why they added a new AoE (despite it having an awesome animation) while also keeping all our old AoEs.

    Does Unleash even have a purpose for a well played DRK now?
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  4. #54
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    On another note, I've no earthly idea why they added a new AoE (despite it having an awesome animation) while also keeping all our old AoEs.

    Does Unleash even have a purpose for a well played DRK now?
    Unleash hardly has a purpose for today's well played DRKs anyways. As it stands, it only serves to "round up" enemies into a neat spot for abyssal drain spam. 50 potency in stormblood, it will still serve the same purpose. Use it once, maybe twice for round up adds, then go to town with AD.
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  5. #55
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    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    Not to mention that Dark Passenger's MP cost is through the roof now (on top of a slight nerf to it when not DA'd.)
    DA DP is the one with a Potency nerf. Both current and Stormblood has it at 150 base but DA is 250/240 respectively. Unless the targets can be blinded, there will be almost no good justification for using DA DP.
    It will still be worth using standard DP at any number of targets however as the MP to Potency cost still exceeds DA's MP to Potency on anything other than C&S and Grit Bloodspiller
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  6. #56
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Ah right, fair enough. The MP cost of it is lame though (2x!). I hope they adjust that and that the numbers for DA in general hadn't been accounted for at all.
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  7. #57
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    Ah right, fair enough. The MP cost of it is lame though (2x!). I hope they adjust that and that the numbers for DA in general hadn't been accounted for at all.
    The skills MP cost have always been a % of max, I am hoping the increase is because of what our MP will be at 70.
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  8. #58
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    Bhearil's Avatar
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 52
    Dark Passenger cost right now is recovered with one siphon strike and its half the cost of a Dark Arts. On the Stormblood it cost the same as Dark Arts (2400 mp) and you need two Siphon strikes to recover the mp (1200 mp), so no doubt, the cost has been increased x2
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  9. #59
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    The skills MP cost have always been a % of max, I am hoping the increase is because of what our MP will be at 70.
    the following is incorrect.
    our max MP is roughly the same if not the same.

    at Lv60 mine is in the 9,000s, and the video shows them at Lv70 in the 9,000s.
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 06-03-2017 at 06:10 AM.
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  10. #60
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    our max MP is roughly the same if not the same.

    at Lv60 mine is in the 9,000s, and the video shows them at Lv70 in the 9,000s.
    Either you're wearing a lot of piety, or haven't played in ages. I play a raen (22 piety, second only to Dunesfolk's 23), and my MP is 6939.
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    Something... something... edginess... shadows... wait... I'm supposed to be a paragon of love and justice!

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