The trade offs of the new SMN

[Hakane_Mitsu]

Funny my Achievements say otherwise...

I'm just gonna say I feel sorry for the people that carried you.

[Silverquick]

I'm just gonna say I feel sorry for the people that carried you.

Yeah cool you're right I was totally carried from day one...

Now... back to reality.....

..... about movement mechanics and boss mob invulnerability in DWT... and all our other damage nerfed with the exception of that..... where all our damage was squeezed into the DWT set now...

Discuss that among you supposed "elites" that supposedly are the only ones who raid...

.....and then tell me what happens to your DWT, Ruin 3 spam, and Deathflare when they go invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts?

[AristocraticCorgi]

..... about movement mechanics and boss mob invulnerability in DWT... and all our other damage nerfed with the exception of that..... where all our damage was squeezed into the DWT set now...

Discuss that among you supposed "elites" that supposedly are the only ones who raid...

.....and then tell me what happens to your DWT, Ruin 3 spam, and Deathflare when they go invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts?

You do know that while raiding you have to manage/optimize cooldown utilization, right?

That process entails learning the fight, including but not limited to the boss' skills/attacks, stages/phases in the fight, as well as being aware of how good or bad your dps output is so you can anticipate/prepare for particular phases/transitions.

The way you describe it you make it sound like raiding is hitting a Dummy that will always be there for you to hit it while dismissing transitions/phases and proper CD management --the very basics of raiding!

[Silverquick]

You do know that while raiding you have to manage/optimize cooldown utilization, right?

That process entails learning the fight, including but not limited to the boss' skills/attacks, stages/phases in the fight, as well as being aware of how good or bad your dps output is so you can anticipate/prepare for particular phases/transitions.

The way you describe it you make it sound like raiding is hitting a Dummy that will always be there for you to hit it while dismissing transitions/phases and proper CD management --the very basics of raiding!

Yes... basically what these changes mean...

Is that you will be doing crap damage... or nerfed damage while saving your DWT bonus damage for that single moment you CAN do it...

Rather than... how we do it now, from any time or any position, un-nerfed...

And.... it hasn't occurred to you your mean DPS will drop like a stone?

[ShaolinMike]

Yes... basically what these changes mean...

Is that you will be doing crap damage... or nerfed damage while saving your DWT bonus damage for that single moment you CAN do it...

Rather than... how we do it now, from any time or any position, un-nerfed...

And.... it hasn't occurred to you your mean DPS will drop like a stone?

The only real difference is that we have one less DoT that will be ticking. Ruin potencies will be brought back up to par due to Ruination from Tri-Disaster. Also note that the time needed for us to do an entire rotation (casting initial DoTs > second Akh Morn) is going to be fairly short.

[AristocraticCorgi]

Yes... basically what these changes mean...

Is that you will be doing crap damage... or nerfed damage while saving your DWT bonus damage for that single moment you CAN do it...

Rather than... how we do it now, from any time or any position, un-nerfed...

And.... it hasn't occurred to you your mean DPS will drop like a stone?

Okay bro, whatever you say!

[Hakane_Mitsu]

Yeah cool you're right I was totally carried from day one...

Now... back to reality.....

..... about movement mechanics and boss mob invulnerability in DWT... and all our other damage nerfed with the exception of that..... where all our damage was squeezed into the DWT set now...

Discuss that among you supposed "elites" that supposedly are the only ones who raid...

.....and then tell me what happens to your DWT, Ruin 3 spam, and Deathflare when they go invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts?

on paper I see no issue and regarding "invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts" Not every fight does that and if it does you work around that and optimize. so you can reach your peak at the same time as everyone else whilst not losing DPS.

In regards to that "Elites" remark, is it wrong of us to want to try and pump out as much DPS as possible so we can skip mechanics / kill faster to optimize farming?

[Senliten]

Yeah cool you're right I was totally carried from day one...

Now... back to reality.....

..... about movement mechanics and boss mob invulnerability in DWT... and all our other damage nerfed with the exception of that..... where all our damage was squeezed into the DWT set now...

Discuss that among you supposed "elites" that supposedly are the only ones who raid...

.....and then tell me what happens to your DWT, Ruin 3 spam, and Deathflare when they go invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts?

Called learning a 'scripted' fight. All the raids are simply scripted, thus if you actually learn your class, which by the way, saw the peity post, funny shit from someone claiming they can raid, yet point to a mere cheevo which anyone can get with gil, you'd know when those situations occur and switch your priority up. And this.... comes from a raider that barely waltzed into Alex savage, but has prior raiding knowledge.

[Nerisu]

.....and then tell me what happens to your DWT, Ruin 3 spam, and Deathflare when they go invulnerable or the mechanics phase starts?

Part of learning a fight is to know when to go into trance so you don't waste it when the boss becomes invulnerable. It will become easier to hold it off too with the removal of the Aethertrail Attunement buff timer.