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    The only real way I can see to curb people bailing on the mentor roulette is if a) the daily reward was actually worthwhile (meaning something that isn't just some lore/scripture) and b) bailing burns your daily reward so you can't just eat the penalty and try your luck again 30 minutes later. No matter how bad you make the punishment, it won't incentivize people to stick out dungeons they don't like, but an actual worthwhile reward that they can't get if they bail will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    The only real way I can see to curb people bailing on the mentor roulette is if a) the daily reward was actually worthwhile (meaning something that isn't just some lore/scripture) and b) bailing burns your daily reward so you can't just eat the penalty and try your luck again 30 minutes later. No matter how bad you make the punishment, it won't incentivize people to stick out dungeons they don't like, but an actual worthwhile reward that they can't get if they bail will.
    I don't get why people latch onto the daily bonus for this. We need 2000 of the suckers - no one is farming the mentor roulette just the one time a day. The bonus is irrelevant when dealing with this particular roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I don't get why people latch onto the daily bonus for this. We need 2000 of the suckers - no one is farming the mentor roulette just the one time a day. The bonus is irrelevant when dealing with this particular roulette.
    Because the bigger problem isnt that mentors are leaving instances they got in mentor-roulette but rather people leaving any dungeon they got by using one of the other roulettes. And then the daily-bonus matters. I'm not saying that mentors dont drop out in mentor roulette and that it doesnt suck (specially when it happens with an EX-primal for example its a lot worse than just someone leaving Sastasha), but the majority of drop-outs is most likely happening because someone got an annoying dungeon for their lowlevel-roulette or something like that - and those are mostly done for the bonus, so losing it would help to make people stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I wonder how many mentors are doing it only for a mount and will never touch it again after 2,000 roulettes.
    The majority. There is very little reason to queue for that roulette other than the achievement award tiers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Because the bigger problem isnt that mentors are leaving instances they got in mentor-roulette but rather people leaving any dungeon they got by using one of the other roulettes.
    And I agree, in general, but this thread is about this roulette in particular, and a lot of people are blaming Mentors even when, like you said, it was either not a mentor, or not from this roulette. Therefore, the daily bonus isn't as big a deal, within this context. Then again, if the phenomenon decreases, it might improve our reputation so threads like this stop and people are less out for Mentor blood. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I don't get why people latch onto the daily bonus for this. We need 2000 of the suckers - no one is farming the mentor roulette just the one time a day. The bonus is irrelevant when dealing with this particular roulette.
    You're not wrong as things stand currently. But if something new was added to the daily bonus (something not attainable in any other way), that would mean there'd be a reason other than the astrope mount to run the mentor roulette, and if that daily bonus were lost by bailing from a mentor roulette instance, it would provide at least some incentive not to bail. But yea as it stands right now the daily bonus is a joke.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    it would provide at least some incentive not to bail.
    "Some" being the operative word here. Like I said, no one runs the thing just the one time daily. So they'll go through Aurum Vale once, and then continue ditching for the rest of their daily farming of that roulette. SE would never implement a system that would take your bonus away from you once it gave it to you, so it still won't help that much, imo.
    Or maybe I'm underestimating how many people do run that thing daily, or how many Mentors we have that even that one loyal run would change things, I don't know
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