{PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUCEMENT} Unfair Party Dismissal

[Hitsuzen]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

Yeah. Like posting a ragequit thread on the forums because they weren't given a refund on a non-refundable purchase that says that more than once in more than one place? Trying to be holier than thou on the forums in a thread where the OP was in the wrong is just silly. We don't know the whole situation, this is just half a story.

[alimdia]

When you report people they wont rush to check their logs to see if there was an abuse, they tell you they will investigate, contact you again if they need to confirm information, then do the full investigation, you're complaining that they didn't tell you the outcome of the investigation the second you asked before they even began checking what happened. No they can't tell you "we don't accept your report because it was a valid kick" when they don't know if it was a valid kick without checking their logs.

Second, having one single bad experience in Primal doesn't mean anything, vote kicks happen in every data center, just move on and stop being so fragile, for a vote kick to go through the majority has to agree, and they did.

[LunaFaye]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

I tried that common sense thing a while back, it isn't well received in game as well as the forums... You need to join them.

[Mavrias]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

Should is subjective and not the question asked. Kicking for differing play styles is a valid reason. OP was removed from the party by a majority vote. No one cheated or purposely or maliciously disrupt his gameplay. That's it.

[Yahallo]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

Doesn't change the fact that it is still a valid reason to kick due to difference in play style. This is common in MMO culture to begin with and really should be an accepted fact at this point.

Honestly, it is one of the more civil outcomes when compared to the otherwise likely possibility of reconciliation failing and the harassment rule getting breached, considering the innate toxicity of an online gaming community.

If the kick feature is indeed intended to be used in this manner (a difference of playstyle as they put it), why would they list the reasons as "offline, afk, harassment, cheating and unjustified dismissal are punishable" in the official window. If this is the case one can argue nothing can be considered as unfair dismissal. I would go as far as to say this would give them an out to save themselves some work and not investigate any complaints regarding dismissal at all.

Not sure why they haven't added it in. Maybe it would just be more trouble to do so than to just continue in the current manner.

Also, you're right that if the appropriate steps are taken, nothing can be considered as unfair dismissal. It is just how things work, and you just have to live with it.

Not being able to kick for difference in play style would likely cause more problems than it would solve; gamers can be rather stubborn.

[NovaLevossida]

Just because you can do something and receive no punishment for it doesn't mean you should do it. This is basic stuff people.

Punishment for initiating a vote and the majority ruling?

[Hamada]

For everyone saying you can kick for whatever you want, I point you to red text:


for the OP it is weird, you can't really ask for refunds from mog station, it says you cant.

I been wondering, why have options if it really does not mean anything?

[Jijifli]

For everyone saying you can kick for whatever you want, I point you to red text:


for the OP it is weird, you can't really ask for refunds from mog station, it says you cant

But it was still a majority rules situation. The red text is for when someone harasses you before kicking you, not just because of a different play style.

Example I guess: I can't kick you for playing summoner. I can kick you for playing dotless summoner.

[Hamada]

But it was still a majority rules situation. The red text is for when someone harasses you before kicking you, not just because of a different play style.

Example I guess: I can't kick you for playing summoner. I can kick you for playing dotless summoner.

I was not debating that, just the people saying you can kick for ANYTHING.

also why are there options anyway?