Redo the Crafting system.

[Driavna]

But that won't happen because this is a theme park MMO and not a sandbox, drops are always going to outshine crafted gear. In a sandbox you can put a decay system so people will always replace their gear at some point, also, goods are usually cheaper to craft and your gains are more about quantity instead of selling a single item for millions to a small market.

The problem behind materials is all of them being similar, NQ and HQ are way too simple, so to fix it SE need to make it more complex and add stats to them. Randomize those stats every week or so leading to really good batches having a high value, but this system also requires to the craft itself become more complex and to drop NQ/HQ too.

Anyway, this game is designed so crafting can be totally ignored for your average player because no content outside savage need consumables and big amounts of gil are useless because this game doesn't have any mad, and optional, gil sinks (like 500m for Cloud's Bike). ATM is a big time sink that only produces luxury items and will become more and more niche with each expansion.

[Zojha]

Anyway, this game is designed so crafting can be totally ignored for your average player [...]

As it should be. And I'd go a step further and also make battle content optional for players who'd rather just craft.

But that raises the question what crafting should be in the first place.

If it's supposed to be a supplement to battle content, it needs to be easily accessible to players who don't really want to bother with it, because they're actually interested in battle content and crafting is just a mere support system - Once click done crafting with but a handful of materials, no dedicated gear, low barrier of entry. The WoW model.

If it's supposed to be a separate progression line or even stand on par with battle content, it needs to be mostly self-contained and not offer any real benefits for activities outside of itself like the gold saucer. And the gameplay IMO is rather lacking for that - Hands up everyone who crafts for the joy of crafting and gives the finished product away for nigh free because it's just some byproduct junk to you. The crafts don't even have unique gameplay, they all share the same minigame. That's the way of making it a game within the game.

Crafting is in a bit of a weird spot. It doesn't seem good enough to stand on its own as battle content can, but it's also too complex and time consuming to be a real supplement to battle content, as only dedicated crafters can create anything of value to battle. It's just kind of there.

[Shurrikhan]

As it should be. And I'd go a step further and also make battle content optional for players who'd rather just craft.

But that raises the question what crafting should be in the first place.

If it's supposed to be a supplement to battle content, it needs to be easily accessible to players who don't really want to bother with it, because they're actually interested in battle content and crafting is just a mere support system - Once click done crafting with but a handful of materials, no dedicated gear, low barrier of entry. The WoW model.

If it's supposed to be a separate progression line or even stand on par with battle content, it needs to be mostly self-contained and not offer any real benefits for activities outside of itself like the gold saucer. And the gameplay IMO is rather lacking for that - Hands up everyone who crafts for the joy of crafting and gives the finished product away for nigh free because it's just some byproduct junk to you. The crafts don't even have unique gameplay, they all share the same minigame. That's the way of making it a game within the game.

Crafting is in a bit of a weird spot. It doesn't seem good enough to stand on its own as battle content can, but it's also too complex and time consuming to be a real supplement to battle content, as only dedicated crafters can create anything of value to battle. It's just kind of there.

I feel like the two can be blended more than that; it just might take more means of entry or acquisition.

A suggestion that was tossed around during 1.x was to anything that could be said to apply to one or more crafts should give experience accordingly, including the final stage of making boots out of intermediate products from leatherworker, alchemist, armorer, etc, and should boost crafter leveling in a way that made it easier to catch up to keep up with one's battle classes. This included the sub-suggestion that either there should actually be more stages in crafting, with additional depth, wherein one goes from high-top moccasins, so to speak, to boots, to armored boots, as to distribute accordant experience across all three crafter that would logically be involved in making a pair of jackboots, but giving further convenience in place of the extra time required to level all the involved crafts (e.g. no need to swap between classes to craft their products, at most swapping to the optimal (prior to all gear having "required" level) gear for each instead such that there's no need to swap when your crafts are roughly the same level). Similarly, non-crafter tasks such using your own hand-made weapons, modifying or augmenting weapon drops, repairing gear, and so forth should all additionally grant related crafter exp.

Another suggestion I saw back then to roughly the same effect was similar to what WoW started doing in Legion, making it easier to skip crafting "material tiers" or focus on specific ones, thereby making it easier to catch up to crafting effectively for oneself or those of one's battle class level, and to extend the level range that a given material tier may supply.

Either of those things I think would still work well now, especially if we were to just reduce the inventory cost involved in crafting, or especially crafting at different DoH levels.