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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I think this is pretty much the reason we don't have one in FFXIV.
    We do not have one because the devs never found it important to put effort in one yet. It needs to be demanded enough for them to change something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    We do not have one because the devs never found it important to put effort in one yet. It needs to be demanded enough for them to change something.
    The question is: How many more people need to post that they want something like that to make it a high priority for them? I mean in older interviews there was always the stance that it was not possible to do so and suddenly it is but not on high priority? Really somehow I get the feeling like they simply dont want or dont know how to do that thus the talk about player demand..because they could always just post that the demand was not high enough and we could not say anything about it.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    The question is: How many more people need to post that they want something like that to make it a high priority for them? I mean in older interviews there was always the stance that it was not possible to do so and suddenly it is but not on high priority? Really somehow I get the feeling like they simply dont want or dont know how to do that thus the talk about player demand..because they could always just post that the demand was not high enough and we could not say anything about it.
    Maybe it was a ps3 limitation? no idea. We need them to comment about this, all there is to it. Same with your sig, it be nice for them to comment on that now that they are expanding the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    The question is: How many more people need to post that they want something like that to make it a high priority for them? I mean in older interviews there was always the stance that it was not possible to do so and suddenly it is but not on high priority? Really somehow I get the feeling like they simply dont want or dont know how to do that thus the talk about player demand..because they could always just post that the demand was not high enough and we could not say anything about it.
    It's obvious they're just looking for excuses not to do it, but I think that's silly and we need to not let up pressure on them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    It's obvious they're just looking for excuses not to do it, but I think that's silly and we need to not let up pressure on them at all.
    They have a financial incentive to do nothing about it. Of course they are going to drag their feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycieus View Post
    They have a financial incentive to do nothing about it. Of course they are going to drag their feet.
    Yes on one hand they might lose money because people need less retainers but on the other hand some might start to buy more cash shop items because they finally have a place to store it. A good ingame friend of mine would love to buy the Aymeric outfit but he simply has no space left to store them. Also with their "no more retainers in SB"-answer they kinda made him question if he even wants to continue playing because he loves to collect dungeon gear sets and other glamour stuff (as an appreciation to the work that the designers put into it) and he simply has no space left, even with an alt and every buyable retainer. So not trying to solve the inventory issue (and a glamour log would at least be a good big next step for that) might even mean that some will stop playing somewhere down the line.

    Quote Originally Posted by OranKells View Post
    I have plenty of space for everything. This sounds like some special snowflake nonsense being outraged before you even get to play the game with the updates to even see if the extra inventory is sufficient. Sounds like you won't be ever be satisfied
    I love posts that are like "well I dont have a problem so this problem is no problem, stop whining". Its quite simple. There are people out there that love to craft everything on one character and might not want to run around and gather material that is not that easy to get. Also there are people that love to glamour stuff but dont want to run content for x-amounts of time to get that glamour piece again if they feel like changing to it. And lets not forget that all the event items like the housing stuff is now mog station only after the event is over, so people might keep that too for future use, because otherwise they might need to pay real life money to get it again. (Lets not talk about stuff like the new PVP gear..they only changed it so you can buy the set again if you have the title after lots of complain posts) Oh and there might be people that fall in all of those categories, maybe not that intense per category but it adds up over time.

    Some might not even have a paid retainer because they dont have the money or just simply dont feel like paying SE for something that they should fix. If they had given us one more free retainer in HW and another free retainer in SB the issue might be less harsh and the small increases to the inventory might be enough for the common player. .
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Yes on one hand they might lose money because people need less retainers but on the other hand some might start to buy more cash shop items because they finally have a place to store it. A good ingame friend of mine would love to buy the Aymeric outfit but he simply has no space left to store them. Also with their "no more retainers in SB"-answer they kinda made him question if he even wants to continue playing because heloves to collect dungeon gear sets and other glamour stuff (as an appreciation to the work that the designers put into it) and he simply has no space left, even with an alt and every buyable retainer. So not trying to solve the inventory issue (and a glamour log would at least be a good big next step for that) might even mean that some will stop playing somewhere down the line.



    I love posts that are like "well I dont have a problem so this problem is no problem, stop whining". Its quite simple. There are people out there that love to craft everything on one character and might not want to run around and gather material that is not that easy to get. Also there are people that love to glamour stuff but dont want to run content for x-amounts of time to get that glamour piece again if they feel like changing to it. And lets not forget that all the event items like the housing stuff is now mog station only after the event is over, so people might keep that too for future use, because otherwise they might need to pay real life money to get it again. (Lets not talk about stuff like the new PVP gear..they only changed it so you can buy the set again if you have the title after lots of complain posts) Oh and there might be people that fall in all of those categories, maybe not that intense per category but it adds up over time.

    Some might not even have a paid retainer because they dont have the money or just simply dont feel like paying SE for something that they should fix. If they had given us one more free retainer in HW and another free retainer in SB the issue might be less harsh and the small increases to the inventory might be enough for the common player. .
    Exactly. +1
    (Btw that person did not appear to glam at all :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Yes on one hand they might lose money because people need less retainers but on the other hand some might start to buy more cash shop items because they finally have a place to store it. A good ingame friend of mine would love to buy the Aymeric outfit but he simply has no space left to store them. Also with their "no more retainers in SB"-answer they kinda made him question if he even wants to continue playing because he loves to collect dungeon gear sets and other glamour stuff (as an appreciation to the work that the designers put into it) and he simply has no space left, even with an alt and every buyable retainer. So not trying to solve the inventory issue (and a glamour log would at least be a good big next step for that) might even mean that some will stop playing somewhere down the line.
    I agree with this point, however, it is also worth considering that SE is more concerned with short-term gains. Their investors are looking at their profits quarter to quarter, so whatever makes them more money for a given three month period is what they are gonna go with. I agree that they may be incentivized at some point to address this issue, but not if enough people don't complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycieus View Post
    I agree with this point, however, it is also worth considering that SE is more concerned with short-term gains. Their investors are looking at their profits quarter to quarter, so whatever makes them more money for a given three month period is what they are gonna go with. I agree that they may be incentivized at some point to address this issue, but not if enough people don't complain.
    Yeah you sadly have a point. Even though a MMO will always be something like a long time investment but they probably dont want to put too much money in it after what happened with 1.0.

    Well then we should just continue positing about that issue. Maybe they will one day listen to that. (Or not x))
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.