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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    The aoe turrets hypervharge gives magic resistance down, the single target turret gives physical resistance down. Pls consider looking up what you're talking about next time.
    I know that. But you think that the mch will prefer buff the caster, over himself the melees and the tanks?. And i talking about maximun caster dps. Im main smn, and with a brd in the party i do 2900dps on a12s. But with a mch i do 2500dps. I dont want to be dependent of the brd to maximise my dps. Thats why I want an equivalent something from mch that buffs equally to foes and that buff the party also. I want to be able to maximise my dps, no matter the composition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    So......you want to max your DPS not matter the comp? What do you propose with runs without a BRD or MCH? Gives Foes to NIN?
    As my previously proposal. Get rid of foes all together. And instead make the caster buff himself. And they have to balance that dps. And i thing they are going inthat direction. But the thing if they keep foes. Is that no matter how much dps i do with a mch. comp i know for a fact that i will be doing more with a brd. And ther i didnt really mean all comp. i was talking about the most common comp. 2 melees, 1 mch or brd. And 1 caster. And yh as you said a nin with a foes equivalent would help on that. The casters will have more to choice from. Now they are dependent of brd only
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    why are you even wasting time with posts like this when they havent even announced the bard changes that are coming in a few weeks. They are completely reworking the bard playstyle including songs. so all this talk of "best comp" means nothing at this point because bards will be changing significantly.
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    before doing another post like that, can we AT LEAST wait to see what BRD and MCH can do in 3 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    It has a "Ballad". It's the Bishop Auto-turret's Promotion ability.

    It has a "Foe". It's the Bishop Auto-turret's Hypercharge ability.
    Promotion is for TP/MP regeneration, TP with Rook Autoturret, and MP with Bishop Autoturret.
    Hypercharge is for Physical/Magic debuff, Physical debuff with Rook Autoturret and Magic debuff with Bishop Autoturret.
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    How about asking for a way to bring BRD and MCH in line without giving them identical tools?
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    For those that watched the latest live stream, at approximately 53 minutes into the video we get a glimpse of the Bard hotbar alongside the role actions for ranged DPS. Foe Requiem is nowhere to be seen. It's possible that a different action will result in a similar effect, but I would consider that to be the less likely scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Promotion is for TP/MP regeneration, TP with Rook Autoturret, and MP with Bishop Autoturret.
    Hypercharge is for Physical/Magic debuff, Physical debuff with Rook Autoturret and Magic debuff with Bishop Autoturret.
    Yea, the OP has me scratching my head too. MCH literally has everything a BRD does plus some.

    A good MCH will buff according to his party composition, not just for himself. If I'm in a group with a MNK, SMN, BLM, and MCH then I'm going to do magic debuff simply because it would be a better benefit. On the other hand if it's a MNK, DRG, MCH, and SMN sorry but melee wins two to one.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 05-28-2017 at 09:45 AM.

  10. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunye View Post
    why are you even wasting time with posts like this when they havent even announced the bard changes that are coming in a few weeks. They are completely reworking the bard playstyle including songs. so all this talk of "best comp" means nothing at this point because bards will be changing significantly.
    I know that, I did this post in hopes that square could acknowledge my worries. And do something before Stormblood comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    before doing another post like that, can we AT LEAST wait to see what BRD and MCH can do in 3 weeks?
    Thats the point. I want square to see this post. Before Stormblood comes out.
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