What's going to be the strength of Dark Knights now?

[RaizeGraymalkin]

DRK gets in back of the line like PLD has. Everyone has their up periods and down periods.

[Mnemosynia]

Look at it another way. Forget all abilities or the way jobs perform their role we're going pure theory here. Lets say drk, pld, and war all mitigate equally as well, and all do perfectly equal dps. Who do you pick for a raid? Whichever two you want. Every tank doesn't necessary need a niche they just need to be balanced and fun.

You there, i want you to know, people like you destroy MMO's, if everyone did the same dps and and the same strengths and weakness, half the people would quit out of sheer disgust. I am of the half that would go. Things aren't fair or equal and they should not be stop trying to bring communism to video games.

[Yorumi]

You there, i want you to know, people like you destroy MMO's, if everyone did the same dps and and the same strengths and weakness, half the people would quit out of sheer disgust. I am of the half that would go. Things aren't fair or equal and they should not be stop trying to bring communism to video games.

You seriously want such imbalance in classes that some classes are so weak they're never able to do high end content? Rather than pick a class you enjoy you want to be locking into something just so able to do content? Right that sucks.

[TheCount]

You seriously want such imbalance in classes that some classes are so weak they're never able to do high end content? Rather than pick a class you enjoy you want to be locking into something just so able to do content? Right that sucks.

You're misreprenting what that person wants and you probably know that. Mnemosynia is argueing for distinct differences between the tanks, that they don't all play the same and have the same qualities but that each has their own thing while also being perfectly viable

[Yorumi]

You're misreprenting what that person wants and you probably know that. Mnemosynia is argueing for distinct differences between the tanks, that they don't all play the same and have the same qualities but that each has their own thing while also being perfectly viable

Weird how you single me out when I never once suggest tanks should "play" exactly the same, just that they should be able to both mitigate as well as each other and have overall the same dps. That way no tank has a guaranteed slot in a party and you bring the two tanks that the tank players want to play. She took my post MASSIVELY, MASSIVELY out of context and at best MASSIVELY misinterpreted it. Followed by making an entire thread about it, implying that balance is bad, and it's me you're upset with?

[MagiusNecros]

I'm hoping the blood gauge is more then just an aoe and st skill gate. DRK really needs more self sustain on par with the PLD and WAR. So far we've only seen the gauge be used for a ST attack skill and a radial spin attack skill.

[Hierro]

I'm hoping the blood gauge is more then just an aoe and st skill gate. DRK really needs more self sustain on par with the PLD and WAR. So far we've only seen the gauge be used for a ST attack skill and a radial spin attack skill.

well, to be fair, WAR lost its self sustain without bloodbath. So far it seems like they only have ToB and equilibrium, which isn't much. If anything, DRK looks like it'll be the best at self sustain if they keep their DA AD effects.

[TheCount]

Weird how you single me out when I never once suggest tanks should "play" exactly the same, just that they should be able to both mitigate as well as each other and have overall the same dps. That way no tank has a guaranteed slot in a party and you bring the two tanks that the tank players want to play. She took my post MASSIVELY, MASSIVELY out of context and at best MASSIVELY misinterpreted it. Followed by making an entire thread about it, implying that balance is bad, and it's me you're upset with?

I'm not upset at you at all, and why are you dragging an entirely different thread into this? Relax. I'm just saying what was intended with that post up there

[Yorumi]

I'm not upset at you at all, and why are you dragging an entirely different thread into this? Relax. I'm just saying what was intended with that post up there

How can you say that's what was intended though? Taken in context it's saying balance is bad. She flat out said I'm destroying MMOs and am a communist by not wanting unbalanced classes. She said she would quit out of disgust if classes were balanced. I specifically said I wasn't looking at how the classes played, implying I wanted unique playstyles, just balanced viable classes and was told that is disgusting. How can you possibly read that any other way?

[MagiusNecros]

By balancing all classes you end up having little to no diversity. There are those who would like classes within a role set that provide a new way to play over doing what the other jobs in that role hierarchy can already do. Baselines for each role should be covered but I feel each job should have abilities that only that job can provide and what it can provide should be fun and beneficial for parties to have.