UN-RIP Bard

[Maero]

People have grossly exageratted on Bard damage though and i have played Bard since 2.0.
Lower damage then at some point is one thing but players are stating that Bard is low damage and weak when it is not and was not Pre-Hw.

All this aside though i think the new changes will be good for Bard, now the question remains if Bard's will yet bother to use songs or not

[xNewbx]

Considering the songs look like instant casts, there's no reason not to anymore.

I just hope they haven't made the job "too easy." I enjoy a good challenge. May have to go monk or samurai if it becomes that way.

[Jilliebeans]

People have grossly exageratted on Bard damage though and i have played Bard since 2.0.
Lower damage then at some point is one thing but players are stating that Bard is low damage and weak when it is not and was not Pre-Hw.

All this aside though i think the new changes will be good for Bard, now the question remains if Bard's will yet bother to use songs or not

if you look at the video, it seem like bard are going to have to use songs, ballad/army and WM are all affect the target, so am just going to assume that ballad reduces enemy magic resist, army reduces armor resist and who knows what WM does lol.

[Arkenne]

So... what happened to Foes?

I see a meter for Ballad, Paeon and Minuet, but Foes??

[KaiSunstrider]

So... what happened to Foes?

I see a meter for Ballad, Paeon and Minuet, but Foes??

Im assuming that new WM is the new foe req. Im more curious as to why Army and WM have icons that seem to be fulfilled by doing certain abilities while Ballad does not. If songs are temporary (30sec duration it seems), hopefully they wont have dps reductions along with them as you wont be able to maintain it infinitely.

[AbelTheBloodedge]

It doesn't sound like that's going to be a problem, Yoshi-P said they were getting rid of the casts for Bard and Machinist altogether!

[Mature]

Considering the songs look like instant casts, there's no reason not to anymore.

I just hope they haven't made the job "too easy." I enjoy a good challenge. May have to go monk or samurai if it becomes that way.

I guess rotations are gonna be the same but without the silly caster gauge.
I think the difficulty is gonna come when toggling songs I guess

[Leigaon]

Just curious, with bard:

* Do we know what the songs do? Someone mentioned in another thread that they're no longer AoE? Are they single target?

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...I see a meter for Ballad, Paeon and Minuet, but Foes??

Same, I'd like to know more. I'm not getting into this damage dealing stuff with bard. Hold that off for later people.

Im assuming that new WM is the new foe req..

I was hoping not, if the single target song buffs are a thing maybe minuet is a DPS buff that you can use stacks in. I'd like to have a song that could compliment each role and keep Foes. But your guess is actually a lot better than my hopes.

* All the songs seem to start at a 30s cooldown, and two(?) have some sort of stacking. Are they all now a base 30 seconds or do you think that's just the time limit with the MP that the bard had in the video?

The "casting" part never bothered, but the bloodletter proc's I missed because I was telling the arrow that I was about to use it was special and unique to any other arrow for E. Arrow (I just assume that's what we were doing for Minuet whisper to our arrow "Don't anyone tell you that you're not special..now fly..") is a nice change back. This has me interested, so might be time to put away Bahamut, sit that book on a shelf and pick up my old glamour and bow from 1.0. Flute > Bahamut!

[Arkenne]

Hrm, I also wonder what changes will be implemented on Empyreal Arrow.
Will it still be a GCD with 15s CD thats affected by Skill Speed? or a full blown OGCD related to the songs?? Maybe Minuet stacks means the amount of times you can shot them in a row.

[javid]

BRD/MCH OP mobility CAN be designed into the upcoming CONTENT. So I'll have to wait and see how much dmg they do and how much their mobility simplifies content progression.

P.S. Sprint cost no tp.... image a BRD/MCH sprinting around the arena while maxing dps .......