Are you guys finally going to DPS and help your party?

[Chiraisu]

While I do DPS as a healer, isn't it odd?

DPS are meant to DPS. Healers are meant to heal.

Honestly I just hope all of stormblood has so much dmg flowing through even ordinary dungeons that there is no time for DPSing so people can shut up about it.

The only reason healers even have damage moves is so they can function in solo content, let's not repeat Bard from FFXI.

Which btw is a good thing to compare to. The playerbase in FFXI for lack of better word, ruined the playstyles of both summoner and ninja. Summoner, who natively had no healing spells, were typically pigeon-holed into healing through the white mage sub job. Their summons were usually pointless to keep out and drained MP, so instead, they simpled healed.

It's a sad existence.

[Waltz_Beat]

While I do DPS as a healer, isn't it odd?

DPS are meant to DPS. Healers are meant to heal.

I guess BRDs aren't suppose to use mana song then, because their DPS! Mana song reduces their DPS!
MNKs use Mantra to help healer? No! MNKs are DPS.
SMNs should never use their battle rez, as that is MP wasted that could've been spent on Ruin III.
Hell - SCHs shouldn't even use adlo or soil! Shields aren't healing - its mitigation! Their healers, not mitigators! Forget Virus, Eye4Eye, they aren't healing abilities!

Seriously, not every little thing about a job has to fit inside a neat, one word category.

[KDSilver]

While I do DPS as a healer, isn't it odd?

DPS are meant to DPS. Healers are meant to heal.

Honestly I just hope all of stormblood has so much dmg flowing through even ordinary dungeons that there is no time for DPSing so people can shut up about it.

The only reason healers even have damage moves is so they can function in solo content, let's not repeat Bard from FFXI.

Which btw is a good thing to compare to. The playerbase in FFXI for lack of better word, ruined the playstyles of both summoner and ninja. Summoner, who natively had no healing spells, were typically pigeon-holed into healing through the white mage sub job. Their summons were usually pointless to keep out and drained MP, so instead, they simpled healed.

It's a sad existence.

I wonder why they still let Second Wind and bloodbath on the DPS cross ability.
I mean, yeah, with healer who heal 100% of the time, why bothering taking that huh.
They are dpsing, leave the healing to healer ! Paladin, go away with that clemency of yours ! Your a tank !

[Iveriad]

I wonder why they still let Second Wind and bloodbath on the DPS cross ability.
I mean, yeah, with healer who heal 100% of the time, why bothering taking that huh.
They are dpsing, leave the healing to healer ! Paladin, go away with that clemency of yours ! Your a tank !

The only problem I had with this argument is, no one kicked DPSes or Tanks over "not healing themselves".
Because that's just what the "Healer *MUST* DPS" faction's argument is.

And then there's also this argument : "But Tank also DPS even though it's not their main job." to that.... I could only say :
Could you do a dungeon run just by spamming Flash and Provoke? With a party of BLMs?

While I do DPS as a healer and actually loved playing a DPS Healer (since it feels good to out DPS lower iLv and/or casual DPSes).
I think people are being too harsh to healer who just wanted to heal.

[SpookyGhost]

The only problem I had with this argument is, no one kicked DPSes or Tanks over "not healing themselves".
Because that's just what the "Healer *MUST* DPS" faction's argument is.

Outside of oGCDs like Equilibrium, Bloodbath, and SW there's no way for a DPS to heal themselves and not lower the group's total DPS - which is the end goal, to do as much damage as possible so that the boss loses all it's HP. If a DPS healing themselves meant an increase in group DPS then they'd need to be held accountable for that.

And then there's also this argument : "But Tank also DPS even though it's not their main job." to that.... I could only say :
Could you do a dungeon run just by spamming Flash and Provoke? With a party of BLMs?

The argument tends to be more "The tanks and the DPS both have to contribute DPS and constantly keep our GCDs rolling to contribute to the party, but a healer who only heals can spends minutes per fight literally just standing around".

[Makeda]

While I do DPS as a healer, isn't it odd?

DPS are meant to DPS. Healers are meant to heal.

Ive always wondered why we don't boot DPS from groups for not healing or tanking enough.

Are DPS so lackluster in this game that the other two roles have to pick up their slack and this is seen as normal?

I don't mind DPSing when I'm on a healer. It is NOT what I picked the role for though, and I am baffled at why I am expected to do another role's job for them in addition to my own.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

It is NOT what I picked the role for though, and I am baffled at why I am expected to do another role's job for them in addition to my own.

Probably because most dps won't put their all in when someone helps them without consent. It's a pain. If I'm easily lugging around a 20lb backpack, and someone offers to carry it for me without provocation, I'm gonna deck them in the face. I hate being considered weak.